Is it not the case that because these codes are so old in there original genisis that the information required to become a master is no longer available.

I am uncomfortable with the fact that the major
pieces of established work which most stress engineer use for todays pipe stress are out of date.

Only recently, i managed by near criminal means to aquire a copy of some parts of the original kellogs calculations used by most engineers in
calculating pipe attachments.
I checked some of our standard calc. sheets against this original material and was not supprised to find errors.

I honestly believe that the structure/complexity/ ambiguaty and age of the asme piping codes
Encourages Deceitfull people to declare competance,and restricts the ability of new guys with high morals to prove those idiots wrong.
All in the name of "engineering judgement."

With due respect, if Mr luf tried to learn this 'art' from scratch in todays engineering culture i feel he would become fustrated very quickly.

Regards