#9716 - 02/08/07 09:07 PM
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I´m designing a 20 ft diam. and 18 ft. height water tank. I was wondering that the anchor bolt detail and results appears even that I´m specifying that the tank is unanchored. Perhaps because I put 0.3 siesmic coefficient. I need your help, thanks.
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#9718 - 02/08/07 10:59 PM
Re: Anchor bolt
[Re: Sergio Antonio Rivera]
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Even if your input indicates that the tank is unanchored, there could be reasons that anchors are required: high wind speed, seismic conditions, or the requirements of Section 3.12. If any of the checks fail, then anchors are required and the software will size the anchor bolts.
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#9815 - 02/14/07 10:49 AM
Re: Anchor bolt
[Re: Sergio Antonio Rivera]
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According to the result, the anchor bolt is required for Section 3.12, can you give me a clue to eliminate the anchor bolt, probably adding the thickness of the bottom, shell or roof, etc. or reduce the corrosion allowance. Thanks
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#9816 - 02/14/07 10:52 AM
Re: Anchor bolt
[Re: Sergio Antonio Rivera]
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Look at the bolting table. See which entries have nonzero values, and work backwards from there.
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#9817 - 02/14/07 01:08 PM
Re: Anchor bolt
[Re: Sergio Antonio Rivera]
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Can you please tell me where can I find the bolting table, is it included in the software or just having a bolt catalog. Thanks.
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#9818 - 02/14/07 01:16 PM
Re: Anchor bolt
[Re: Sergio Antonio Rivera]
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I meant the "bolt load/stress" output table produced by the software, in the Bolting Report.
Any line that has non-zero values means a positive load was computed from the equations in API-650 Section 3.12. Go to these equations and see what you may be able to change to drive the result to zero (or less than zero). This will avoid bolting.
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#9821 - 02/14/07 04:33 PM
Re: Anchor bolt
[Re: Sergio Antonio Rivera]
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I have intented several times to eliminate the anchor bolt, but I failed. Are you so kind to send me a benchmark without anchor bolt on the result. This is my e-mail..arivera@ciateq.mx..thank you very much.
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#9831 - 02/15/07 09:09 AM
Re: Anchor bolt
[Re: Sergio Antonio Rivera]
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You already have one. Run the B&Y example job.
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#18957 - 06/30/08 12:36 AM
Re: Anchor bolt
[Re: Richard Ay]
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Good morning,
I obtained this output report : " . . .
WIND OVERTURNING STABILITY CHECK Overturning moment * (V/100)^2 (ft-lb) 0.31148E+07 Resisting (dead load) moment (ft-lb): 0.43386E+08 Anchors not required
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UNANCHORED TANK WL VALUES Design Case 6263.3 Test Case 4734.6 Empty Case 0.00000
CASE : DESIGN Moment & Wt : 0.10732E+09 1539.6 M /(D^2 *(Wt+Wl)): 0.51110
CASE : TEST Moment & Wt : 0.61845E+08 1539.6 M /(D^2 *(Wt+Wl)): 0.36629
CASE : USER Moment & Wt : 0.12121E+07 1539.6 M /(D^2 *(Wt+Wl)): 0.29257E-01
UNANCHORED TANK LONGITUDINAL COMPRESSIVE STRESSES Design Case (psi) 398.81 Test Case (psi) 269.15 Empty Case (psi) 96.258
TANK ALLOWABLE COMPRESSIVE STRESSES Design Case (psi) 8427.9 Test Case (psi) 7382.7 Empty Case (psi) 3371.2
TANK SEISMIC STRESS PASS/FAIL STATUS Design Case Passed Test Case Passed Empty Case Passed "
So a tank is not required to be anchored (per Section 3.11 and Appendix E). According to 3.12.1 (API 650), The requirements of section 3.12 shall not be met.
However, I find the Anchor bolt table (section 3.12) designed in the output report and the Anchors are required :
" ANCHOR BOLT DETAILS - Section 3.12
Case Uplift Allowable Load/Bolt (N. ) Bolt Stress (N. ) (KPa ) Design Pressure : 0.00000 103419. 0.00000 Test Pressure : 0.00000 137892. 0.00000 Failure Pressure : 0.00000 248206. 0.00000 Wind Loading : 0.00000 198564. 0.00000 Seismic OPE : 0.81106E+07 198564. 0.15597E+06 Seismic Test : 0.31784E+07 198564. 61124. Design Press + Wind Load : 0.00000 137892. 0.00000 Design Press + Seismic OPE : 0.00000 198564. 0.00000 Design Press + Seismic Test: 0.00000 198564. 0.00000
ANCHOR BOLT RESULTS - Section 3.12
Case Number Bolt Bolt Stress of Bolts Diameter (KPa ) (mm. ) Design Pressure : 52 38.100 0. Test Pressure : 52 38.100 0. Failure Pressure : 52 38.100 0. Wind Loading : 52 38.100 0. Seismic OPE : 52 38.100 172075. Seismic Test : 52 38.100 67434. Design Press + Wind Load : 52 38.100 0. Design Press + Seismic OPE : 52 38.100 0. Design Press + Seismic Test: 52 38.100 0.
Final Anchor Bolt Spacing .............. (m. ) 3.02 "
So, please, Can you clarify me this point?
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#18976 - 06/30/08 07:34 AM
Re: Anchor bolt
[Re: maatki]
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TANK determines the uplift for the conditions defined in Section 3.11. If any uplift value is greater than zero, TANK designs anchor bolts. (So Section 3.11 appears to be inconsistent with the other Code Sections.)
Version 3.11 (which is in testing) will only implement Section 3.11 if one of the other Code Sections requires bolting.)
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