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#76387 - 04/11/22 02:48 AM isogen SKEY for tee/weldolet
vermaccio Offline
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when i try to export an iso, i can edit the PCF and i can insert these SKEYS:

WTBW: weldolet
SKSW: sockolet
TEBW: classic tee

if i change to sockolet or weldolet, in iso the weldolet-sockolet symbol is not shown, but i see as a pipe_to_pipe symbol intersection.

How can i make appear the weldolet/sockolet component symbol in isometric output?


Edited by vermaccio (04/11/22 02:51 AM)

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#76389 - 04/12/22 02:34 PM Re: isogen SKEY for tee/weldolet [Re: vermaccio]
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It is possible.
The point is that a weldolet or a sockolet is not a TEE element but OLET element. When the pcf is created, Caesar consider that is a tee there so if you change only the TEBW with WTBW, then isogen will look in the TEE category and will not find the WTWB listed there and therefore it will show pipe to pipe intersection.

So you need to change as per below in order to obtain what do you need.
The header is PIPE so the first two lines need to be identified to pipe elements. Next the following two lines need to be identified as OLET with centre-point being the header size and branch as being the branch size and BW connection.


TEE
END-POINT -0.0000 -4400.0000 0.0000 8.0000
END-POINT -0.0000 -4600.0000 0.0000 8.0000
CENTRE-POINT -0.0000 -4500.0000 0.0000
BRANCH1-POINT -0.0000 -4500.0000 100.0000 2.0000
SKEY TEBW



PIPE
END-POINT -0.0000 -4400.0000 0.0000 8.0000
END-POINT -0.0000 -4600.0000 0.0000 8.0000
OLET
CENTRE-POINT -0.0000 -4500.0000 0.0000 8.0000
BRANCH1-POINT -0.0000 -4500.0000 100.0000 2.0000 BW
SKEY WTBW


ta daaa
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#76394 - 04/14/22 12:56 AM Re: isogen SKEY for tee/weldolet [Re: danb]
vermaccio Offline
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good, very very good. smile

So if i need to change tee type i only change the SKEY in TEE section.
(example: i need a threaded thee, i will change SKEY TEBW with SKEY TESW.

If i need an olet, i have to impement the FIVE changes you made to the second example:
1) replace TEE with PIPe at the begginning
2)add OLET after the 2 coordinates rows
3) below olet: CENTRE-POINT row: add at the end of the row the same diameter of last pipe (see 2 row before)
4)add BW at the end of the 4 coordinate rows
5)change SKEY to BTWB

if i need to insert a thread olet:
i change 5) with THSC. in 4) i leave BW because is the weld between header and olet.

great!

question: if i have maaaany olet, many weldolts and many sockolet, how can i understand what to made sockolet and what weldolet? only by coordinates? very hard and time consuming.... frown for example, is there a way to make appear node numbers at olets inside the PCF?





Edited by vermaccio (04/14/22 02:44 AM)

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#76395 - 04/14/22 01:35 AM Re: isogen SKEY for tee/weldolet [Re: vermaccio]
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i found a way but i more time consuming.

imagine you have a branch.


10-----20----30
..........|
..........|
..........100

in
edit stress annontations --> element annotation
in segment 10 to 20 write "node 20"

then in "create isometric drawing" edit the .pcf and you will see the node inside every TEE section

if you have tee, socklet and weldolet mixed, you can add as element annotation "tee", "socklet" or "weldolet".


i opened a case about it, their answer is that are asking to developers to solve this "problem".

example:
TEE
END-POINT 90.0000 -0.0000 0.0000 203.2000
END-POINT 110.0000 -0.0000 0.0000 203.2000
CENTRE-POINT 100.0000 -0.0000 0.0000
BRANCH1-POINT 100.0000 -0.0000 10.0000 50.8000
SKEY TEBW
MESSAGE-SQUARE
TEXT sockolet
UNDIMENSIONED

now you know it is a sockolet: you can now change by hand the section as above.


Edited by vermaccio (04/14/22 01:40 AM)

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#76396 - 04/14/22 02:40 AM Re: isogen SKEY for tee/weldolet [Re: vermaccio]
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see attached image


Attachments
pcf edit for weldolet.jpg



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#76397 - 04/14/22 03:41 AM Re: isogen SKEY for tee/weldolet [Re: vermaccio]
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The sockolets are for branches less than 2", the weldolets for branches 2" and larger.
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