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#75337 - 01/19/21 01:59 PM Restrained & Unrestrained Joint for FRP Piping
Borzki Offline
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Hello fellow Stressers!!

What is an example of unrestrained joint and restrained joint in FRP piping?

Also kindly give your opinion on the statement below:

"When restrained joints are used, the pipe should be designed to accommodate the full magnitude of forces generated by internal pressure".

In Caesar II (beam element) modelling how do we represent a "restrained joint" and "unrestrained joint".

Is it by default that we need to provide thrust blocks at bends, blanks & valves for unrestrained joint FRP pipe/fitting or we can justify it by detailed analysis (not to use thrust blocks for underground unrestrained joint FRP piping).

Is it also by default that we don't need to provide thrust blocks at bends, blanks & valves for restrained joint FRP pipe/fitting or we can justify it by detailed analysis (to use thrust blocks for underground restrained joint FRP piping).

Just correct any wrong statement I've made.

Your opinion is greatly appreciated.
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#75338 - 01/19/21 03:08 PM Re: Restrained & Unrestrained Joint for FRP Piping [Re: Borzki]
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I think the wording is a little backwards from an engineering design perspective. It's a solution looking for a problem that might exist, or it might not.

I.E. it's not a "restrained joint" versus "unrestrained joint" so much as it's just "joint." Whether or not your joints need to be restrained may vary from manufacturer to manufacturer or product to product.

If the joint is as good as the pipe, per manufacturer specifications and guidelines, then you need do nothing special for the joint itself. Treat it as normal pipe. In this case, I would consider the "unrestrained" joint to be as good as a welded joint for metallic piping.

If the joint is a slip joint, then each joint effectively acts as an expansion joint with only axial movement. Total axial loading on an anchor will be primarily F=P*A. As such, it needs to be restrained, i.e. a "restrained" joint.

You can complicate things further by considering expansion/contraction of the pipe itself due to pressure and thermal effects, as well as friction within the slip joints, and friction on the external supports, but you might not easily quantify that.

Whether or not you wish to try to design slip joints in CAESAR is up to you, but I would be tempted to only consider the sustained case, under the premise that thermal effects are taken up by the slip joints, and not concern myself with the slip joints.

A properly restrained joint design will consider:
1. Anchors spaced close enough such that piping isn't capable of slipping out of its joints.
2.Anchors spaced far enough around bends such that the F=PA doesn't turn into sufficient bending stresses to overload piping/fittings.

Based on the verbiage, this looks like a client specification. Look at the manufacturer specification.

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#75339 - 01/19/21 03:58 PM Re: Restrained & Unrestrained Joint for FRP Piping [Re: Borzki]
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1) Un-restrained Joint - This type of joint can with stand only hoop pressure. Concrete thrust blocks are required at directional changes to resist longitudinal forces.
eg: Rubber Ring Joint

2) Restrained Joint - It can accommodate both hoop pressure and longitudinal forces. So the necessity of concrete thrust blocks are eliminated.
eg: Tapered Glue Joint, Lock Joint, Flanged Joint & Lamination Joint

there are some differences as you can see. Need to investigate with the potential vendor what they do offer
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#75340 - 01/19/21 08:51 PM Re: Restrained & Unrestrained Joint for FRP Piping [Re: danb]
Borzki Offline
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Thanks danb & Michael for that very good enlightenment... I would specify restrained joint in this case to simplify things from design and analysis point of view.

Any other opinion is highly appreciated.
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