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#74451 - 02/18/20 03:36 AM Matching Pipe Thickness
RB Offline
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Dear Pip-Ers,

I am planning to Use S-80 TEE in a S-40 piping system. B31.3, Appendix D, Note (3) says that "T - Nominal wall thickness of matching pipe".

My questions are

1. What is matching pipe thickness?

2. Shall I use increased thickness (S-80) for both "SIF" and "Section modulus" calculation?

or

3. Shall I use increased thickness (S-80) only for "SIF" Computation and nominal pipe thickness (S-40) for "Section modulus" computation?

Please advise me to solve this issue.

Thanks in advance.
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#74452 - 02/18/20 12:47 PM Re: Matching Pipe Thickness [Re: RB]
Dorin Daniel Popescu Offline
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It depends how you'll model it in Caesar.

If you model the tee separating the tee's branch and run short-length spools from the connected pipework using tee actual thickness (S-80, higher than S-40 pipe thickness), then matching pipe thickness is S-80, because the SIFs/SSIs are calculated for the S-80 pipe thickness and the nominal stresses evaluated for S-80 pipe spool are amplified for SE/SL assessment.
This is the most accurate and realistic approach - your (2) clause above, I believe...

There is indeed option (3) - apparently simpler but actually inaccurate...to let thickness un-changed at S-40 and to specify SIFs/SSIs for S-80. Please note that maybe SIFs/SSIs are calculated correctly, but they are used to multiply the nominal stresses calculated for S-40...and this is incorrect. This is your option (3), I believe...

I said "apparently" simpler because second approach requires to calculate SIFs/SSIs separately. For the first method, SIFs/SSIs are correctly evaluated by Caesar using the actual S-80 thickness...unless you intend to use B31J formulas without FEA Tools employment.

Be careful how you define the tee. Is it a reduced tee, or an equal one? If it is a reduced tee and you want anyway to use option (3), and the SIFs are calculated as per B31.3 App. D, then you may specify the intersection type ("3" for B16.9 welding tee). If the SIFs are calculated as per B31J, you shall NOT specify the intersection type. Otherwise Caesar will alter the stresses on branch side using the effective section modulus, and this is wrong, against B31J philosophy. However, in this case, you need to specify properly "in-plane" and "out-plane" values, depending on branch and run orientation with respect to coordinate axes - see Caesar II User Guide for details.
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#74465 - 02/24/20 05:19 AM Re: Matching Pipe Thickness [Re: Dorin Daniel Popescu]
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Dear Sir,
Thanks for your reply. As per code, what is recommended? option 2 or option 3.
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#74468 - 02/24/20 12:50 PM Re: Matching Pipe Thickness [Re: RB]
Dorin Daniel Popescu Offline
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Code does not provide such recommendations. Its engineer judgement and professional knowledge to be employed to make such decisions.

I strongly suggest to use option (2). Its the single realistic and accurate one.
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