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#73858 - 10/02/19 07:36 AM Include tank settlement displacement into HRG load case
Van Ha Offline
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If I sizing a spring close to the tank bottom nozzle. Should the tank settlement be included in HGR load case?


Edited by Van Ha (10/02/19 07:36 AM)

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#73861 - 10/02/19 08:33 AM Re: Include tank settlement displacement into HRG load case [Re: Van Ha]
Michael_Fletcher Offline
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If you don't, you'd be sizing a spring without settlement, and when the tank settles, you'll have a sustained load equal to the settlement times spring rate.

The pipe or tank nozzle could fail after settlement. Or it might not fail.

If you do, you'd be sizing a spring that could be insufficient to support the pipe and tank nozzle when it's new. Or it might not fail.

If scenario 1 fails and scenario 2 fails, you might consider adding a half-settlement scenario and size the spring for that, in which case the pipe is only half-under-supported new and half-over-supported with settlement. In which case, it could be almost-failing in both cases.

Ultimately, I would expect that if you have significant settlement, you would end up with a constant effort spring no matter what, should you choose to go spring-support route.

Depending on the situation, you might look into other solutions to enhance flexibility.

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#73885 - 10/04/19 09:34 PM Re: Include tank settlement displacement into HRG load case [Re: Van Ha]
Van Ha Offline
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Loc: Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam
Thanks for comments.

In my opinion, settlement value is needed to be included in HRG load case. Full settlement or half-settlement depends on piping layout/flexibility, stress in pipe and tank nozzle load.

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