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#72080 - 08/28/18 02:16 AM longitudinal weld joint efficiencies in ASME B31.1
Hisham Offline
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Dears

I do have two clarification, why using longitudinal weld joint efficiencies reduce expansion stresses in ASME B31.1?.

whether it is a recommended practice to utilize the longitudinal weld joint efficiencies in such case?

thanks for your support

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#72092 - 08/29/18 01:16 AM Re: longitudinal weld joint efficiencies in ASME B31.1 [Re: Hisham]
Hisham Offline
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it means reduce the ratio of calculated expansion stresses to allowable expansion stress?

It seems a little pit strange to me to increase the allowable stresses when the longitudinal weld joint efficiencies are added, it suppose to reduce the allowable!!

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#72096 - 08/29/18 07:51 AM Re: longitudinal weld joint efficiencies in ASME B31.1 [Re: Hisham]
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Weld joint efficiency (E) does not change calculated stress. E is used to increase the required (pressure) wall thickness where the weld quality is uncertain. But this E is not used in setting the allowable stresses for EXP, SUS & OCC.
B31.1 and B31.3 handle this E differently. The allowable stress tables in B31.3 hold the material basic allowable stress. In B31.1, the allowable stress table holds SE, not just S.
In CAESAR II, if you enter E for a B31.1 model, the program will divide the entered allowable stresses (SC, SH1,...,SH9) by this E - thus increasing the allowable stress (since E<1). This will also reduce the (calculated stress/allowable stress) ratio.
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#72120 - 09/03/18 12:16 AM Re: longitudinal weld joint efficiencies in ASME B31.1 [Re: Hisham]
Hisham Offline
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Many thanks Dave for your support.

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