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#64064 - 08/22/15 12:59 AM time history analysis
pooria1978 Offline
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I have been given the delta P vs. time spectrums to do a time history analysis in order to explore the impact of surge on a piping system. my problem is the spectrums are "too" long; the pressure fluctuation spectrum is given within 60 seconds and the time steps are 10ms! (every spectrum contains 6000 rows of information!) I know that it is impossible to enter more than 500 rows in CII spectrum input. is it correct to only pick a "fragment" of the total spectrum in which the highest delta P occurs?

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#64076 - 08/24/15 03:30 AM Re: time history analysis [Re: pooria1978]
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following the above situation, I have some more questions;
1- Since the part which I am analyzing is in the downstream of shut-off valve, (the peak point of the delta Ps are all negative figures) shall I assume the force vectors in the opposite direction of the flow? (unlike the upstream part where the force vectors would be along the direction of the flow)


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#64157 - 08/28/15 09:42 AM Re: time history analysis [Re: pooria1978]
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These questions cannot be answered here in this Forum. Please open a Support Request on Smart Support and send in you job files.
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#64190 - 08/31/15 08:00 AM Re: time history analysis [Re: pooria1978]
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Follow the pressures. Imagine you are looking up and down the pipe from the inside. Every surface that you see has a pressure. The loads you are modeling are the changing pressures on these areas. So, downstream of the closing valve, immediately after starting the transient, I would guess higher pressures remain on the downstream surfaces. So I would state that, initially, the forces act along the direction of flow. But they bounce.
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