#32763 - 01/25/10 12:15 AM
Allowable stress in hydrotest
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Hello Dear
I'm working on a case (in ASME B31.3) when I get Its results in the hydrotest load case allowable stress is zerro.
what shoud I do? how much is value of hydrotest in stantard?
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#32772 - 01/25/10 08:46 AM
Re: Allowable stress in hydrotest
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Back in the input, define a value for Sy.
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#32787 - 01/26/10 12:44 AM
Re: Allowable stress in hydrotest
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Thank you Richard
solve it. But I want to know how much is Its value in B31.3
Edited by M.Mohammad (01/26/10 12:48 AM)
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#32789 - 01/26/10 06:35 AM
Re: Allowable stress in hydrotest
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100%Sy in B31.3 90%Sy in B31.1
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#32791 - 01/26/10 08:51 AM
Re: Allowable stress in hydrotest
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Yes, 100%Sy for B31.3.
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#32818 - 01/27/10 03:03 AM
Re: Allowable stress in hydrotest
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Thank You
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#36591 - 07/04/10 09:11 PM
Re: Allowable stress in hydrotest
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Dear Richard Ay,
Could you tell me from where part in B31.3 that allowable stress for test is 100%Sy? Up to now, I couldn't find it.
For B31.1, part 102.3.3 (B), it's stated that during pressure test.........., the circumferential stress shall not exceed 90% of the yield strength.......
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#36636 - 07/06/10 08:27 AM
Re: Allowable stress in hydrotest
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There might be a more explicit statement elsewhere but paragraph 345.2.1(a) states "the test pressure may be reduced to the maximum pressure that will not exceed the yield strength at test temperature"
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#45382 - 10/19/11 11:11 AM
Re: Allowable stress in hydrotest
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What about EN 13480 - 95% yield ReH, with a note for austenitic stainless steel with A bigger than 25 (the bigger of 95% Rp1.0 or 45%Rm)? Does Caesar consider this?
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Edited by danb (10/19/11 11:23 AM)
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#45385 - 10/19/11 01:18 PM
Re: Allowable stress in hydrotest
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CAESAR II does include a number of EN-13480 materials. (See materials 406 and higher.)
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#45386 - 10/19/11 02:26 PM
Re: Allowable stress in hydrotest
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Thank you Richard. However, what I was able to see is the following. If the installation temperature is 20 degrees, the Sy field will be filled with the ReH for all EN materials. 95% of this value will be used for allowable stress in Hydrostatic test. In the same time for austenitic stainless steels with A>25 (e.g. 1.4301), para 5.2.2.2. of EN 13480 require the use of 95%Rp1.0 or 45%Rm as allowable.
Is my understanding correct?
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#63090 - 05/22/15 07:20 AM
Re: Allowable stress in hydrotest
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Dear All,
kindly guide me for allowable stress value for Hydro test case as per 31.4 and 31.8 and if possible code paragraph no. please....
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Regards Manjunath
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#63095 - 05/25/15 12:53 AM
Re: Allowable stress in hydrotest
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Richard or Danb please...I have confusion of value 0.9 SMYS or 1 SMYS
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#63098 - 05/25/15 08:17 AM
Re: Allowable stress in hydrotest
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Hi, There are no Sh values defined as it is in B 31.3. Without much fitting the pipeline has long run, which makes these system simple (mathematically) so for majority of the portion the stresses can be predictable. in B 31.4 code all allowable values are linked with Sy (Specified Minimum Yield Strength) as the allowable stress of a pipeline (in this case) is mainly to protect the pipe from gross deformation.
If my brain goes right then B 31.4 code allows the temp limit from -20deg F to 250deg F. (-30 to 120 deg C approx. for more detail refer the chapter-II para 402.2 or 402.3 (not sure).
I hope this help.
Regards, R.K.
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