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#56357 - 09/30/13 04:21 AM Expansion Joint Loads
IFPC Offline
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Hi collegues,

I am analysing a flue gas line with an expansion joint modeled and I have to compute the loads (forces and moments) applied to the expansion joint.
Can you help me how to do it?

Thanks in advance,

Best regards,

IFPC

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#56364 - 09/30/13 06:51 AM Re: Expansion Joint Loads [Re: IFPC]
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You could locate a CNode anchor each end of your EXJ element to quickly identify imposed loads, or read the Global Element Forces report.

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#56365 - 09/30/13 08:27 AM Re: Expansion Joint Loads [Re: IFPC]
Dan Edgar Offline
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If you’re modeling a flue gas joint then it’s probably a restrained expansion joint. If so, then the external loads you should put on your specification sheet to the vendors are the restraint loads at the hardware C-node. I hope this helps, if not let me know.
Dan Edgar

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#56366 - 09/30/13 10:06 AM Re: Expansion Joint Loads [Re: IFPC]
IFPC Offline
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Thanks for your replies,

I have in fact C-Nodes before and after the EXJ element, but my question is what is the the value that I should consider ?

The maximum of the two C-Nodes ?

The difference ?

The sum ?



Another question: If I don´t put C-Nodes can I look for the Global Element Forces report ?

And once again should I consider the maximum, the sum or the difference ?


IFPC

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#56367 - 09/30/13 11:05 AM Re: Expansion Joint Loads [Re: IFPC]
Dan Edgar Offline
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There is no need to have C-nodes at both the To and From ends of an expansion joint. You can make one end a rigid attachment and handle all of the C-node connections at the other end. In this way you should only have one set of loads to work with.

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#56377 - 10/01/13 02:22 AM Re: Expansion Joint Loads [Re: Dan Edgar]
IFPC Offline
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Dan,

But if I put an anchor with no C-Node I will be changing the conditions of the pipe system.

What do you think of looking to the values of the Global Element Forces instead?


IFPC

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#56382 - 10/01/13 09:10 AM Re: Expansion Joint Loads [Re: IFPC]
Dan Edgar Offline
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IFPC,

Please send me your e-mail address and we will take this off line. My e-mail is:

pipesol@connectnet.com

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