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#55652 - 07/31/13 05:52 AM WELD JOINT STRENGTH REDUCTION FACTOR (WC) —APPENDIX-P (2010
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Dear All,

Para 302.3.5(e): States for Displacement stress range allowable SA, no need to multiply with WC.

1.From APP-P—P302.3.5 (e) Reference states:

Para 302.3.5(e), applies EXCEPT, SoA & SEA in P302.3.5(d) Replaces SA Para 302.3.5(d). Means, if I select APP-P ON, WC should multiply to both SoA & SEA . But I observe that allowable values are changing at tees& bends (where weld joints are there) in SUS case only but not changing in operating and expansion. Can I know the reason? If I am wrong please correct me.

2.If APP-P is on, how SoA & SEA in P302.3.5(d) Replaces SA Para 302.3.5(d). What it means. And what CAESAR-II is doing for that??
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#55656 - 07/31/13 08:43 AM Re: WELD JOINT STRENGTH REDUCTION FACTOR (WC) —APPENDIX-P (2010 [Re: durga]
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Dear Richard sir,
Can you please clear this doubt..
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#55706 - 08/01/13 10:29 PM Re: WELD JOINT STRENGTH REDUCTION FACTOR (WC) —APPENDIX-P (2010 [Re: durga]
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Dear Richard,

Para 302.3.5(e): States for Displacement stress range allowable SA, no need to multiply with WC.

1.From APP-P—P302.3.5 (e) Reference states:

Para 302.3.5(e), applies EXCEPT, SoA & SEA in P302.3.5(d) Replaces SA Para 302.3.5(d). Means, if I select APP-P ON, WC should multiply to both SoA & SEA . But I observe that allowable values are changing at tees& bends (where weld joints are there) in SUS case only but not changing in operating and expansion. Can I know the reason? If I am wrong please correct me.

2.If APP-P is on, how SoA & SEA in P302.3.5(d) Replaces SA Para 302.3.5(d). What it means. And what CAESAR-II is doing for that??

Can you please clear this doubt..
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#55721 - 08/03/13 04:03 AM Re: WELD JOINT STRENGTH REDUCTION FACTOR (WC) —APPENDIX-P (2010 [Re: durga]
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Richard,

Waiting for your valuable reply..
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#55767 - 08/07/13 09:39 PM Re: WELD JOINT STRENGTH REDUCTION FACTOR (WC) —APPENDIX-P (2010 [Re: durga]
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Dear Experts,

can you please clarify this doubt...
Para 302.3.5(e): States for Displacement stress range allowable SA, no need to multiply with WC.

1.From APP-P—P302.3.5 (e) Reference states:

Para 302.3.5(e), applies EXCEPT, SoA & SEA in P302.3.5(d) Replaces SA Para 302.3.5(d). Means, if I select APP-P ON, WC should multiply to both SoA & SEA . But I observe that allowable values are changing at tees& bends (where weld joints are there) in SUS case only but not changing in operating and expansion. Can I know the reason? If I am wrong please correct me.

2.If APP-P is on, how SoA & SEA in P302.3.5(d) Replaces SA Para 302.3.5(d). What it means. And what CAESAR-II is doing for that??
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Durga

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#55790 - 08/12/13 12:02 PM Re: WELD JOINT STRENGTH REDUCTION FACTOR (WC) —APPENDIX-P (2010 [Re: durga]
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Can any one, pls help on this topic...
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#55791 - 08/12/13 12:23 PM Re: WELD JOINT STRENGTH REDUCTION FACTOR (WC) —APPENDIX-P (2010 [Re: durga]
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Follow the logic.
Wc is not applied to expansion (or operating) stress ranges and it is not applied to operating stress states - both base Code & Appx. P.
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#55795 - 08/12/13 10:50 PM Re: WELD JOINT STRENGTH REDUCTION FACTOR (WC) —APPENDIX-P (2010 [Re: durga]
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Thanks for ur reply,

In base code it is already mentioned, Wc Is only for Sustained, not for EXP & OPE, THEN again why they introduce that same topic in APPENDIX-P. Is there any logic/concept behind that introduction of this topic in APP-P.

Any mistakes pls correct me..
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#55816 - 08/13/13 04:33 PM Re: WELD JOINT STRENGTH REDUCTION FACTOR (WC) —APPENDIX-P (2010 [Re: durga]
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The mention in Appx. P is only to explicitly state that both stress checks in Appx. P do not require W.
Take the base Code and replace the appropriate sections with the Appx. P text to create a complete Appx.P reference. You would add this line about W.
It is a simple correction. Do not overthink it.
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#55818 - 08/13/13 10:59 PM Re: WELD JOINT STRENGTH REDUCTION FACTOR (WC) —APPENDIX-P (2010 [Re: durga]
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Thank you Dave.
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