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#54145 - 04/25/13 02:37 AM Bottom Out Spring
vglayan76 Offline
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Hi all,

I'm currently working on existing flowlines with existing constant spring hangers in the system. I would like to know how to correctly model a pre-defined constant spring hanger using YSPR. I have read the CII manual but when i apply it, the results doesn't make sense. In my system, i have a constant spring hanger with total travel of 368mm and load of 25000 N. In the Restraint field, my "x" is 368mm and my F is 25000 but i leave a blank for 'Stif' since it is a constant spring hanger. However, after running the analysis, my displacement is 0 in Y direction and it happens to all my spring hangers. I don't think all my spring hangers bottom out. Please advice where did i do wrong

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#54146 - 04/25/13 03:00 AM Re: Bottom Out Spring [Re: vglayan76]
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"Stif" needs to be zero for constant (i.e. no variation in load).

Blank mean rigid hanger.

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#54152 - 04/25/13 07:40 AM Re: Bottom Out Spring [Re: vglayan76]
Dave Diehl Offline
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What you have is not really a "restraint" in CAESAR II. Restraints define a stiffness. A hanger provides stiffness and/or load. It's the load you want. Don't call it a restraint. Instead, define a hanger at the node and use the bottom of the hanger auxiliary data area. There you can define the constant hanger load. For a constant you need not enter a stiffness.
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#54153 - 04/25/13 08:00 AM Re: Bottom Out Spring [Re: vglayan76]
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Indeed, but since he want the "bottom out" feature, this is the metod what Caesar reccomend. Isn't it?
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#54155 - 04/25/13 08:29 AM Re: Bottom Out Spring [Re: vglayan76]
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Oh, right.
Then, yes, your point of not leaving stiffness blank is what's important here. But I wouldn't use zero; I'd use 1. (I never tried zero.)
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