#49619 - 07/05/12 12:08 AM
The Maximum Value of DLF (dynamic load factor) ????
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Dear All,
i studied in CAESAR help file and other books.. In that they stated that DLF cant be greater than 2(TWO)
BUT In my case, DLF SPECTRUM GENERATOR it is showing GREATER THAN 2. NEARLY 6.
IS CAESAR HAS ANY LIMITATIONS FOR DOING SLUG ANALYSIS ???
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Edited by durga (07/05/12 12:16 AM)
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#49625 - 07/05/12 04:01 AM
Re: The Maximum Value of DLF (dynamic load factor) ????
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DLF is the quotient dynamic answer/static answer with the same exicite load. DLF = 2 ( max) will be at short impuls load. General DLF can be bigher as 2. This is a resonanz question ( natural frequency to exicite frequency)
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#49626 - 07/05/12 05:52 AM
Re: The Maximum Value of DLF (dynamic load factor) ????
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Thank you Ohliger for ur reply,
Can you please tell me for slug case
I observed value DLF=6 in slug case, what is the reason...??
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#49628 - 07/05/12 07:18 AM
Re: The Maximum Value of DLF (dynamic load factor) ????
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If your slug case more as one event , then you have a force/time exicite (maybe harmonic). And then you become higher DLF, because your system go in Resonanz. For a harmonic damped system : DLF = 1/ SQRT (( 1- fe/fn)*(1-fe/fn)+ 4 D*D * fe/fn)
fe ==> your ecitite frequency fn ==> natural frequency D ==> Damping (%)
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#49630 - 07/05/12 07:25 AM
Re: The Maximum Value of DLF (dynamic load factor) ????
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I think its a good idea you visit a dyn. Caesar2 seminar
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#49642 - 07/05/12 09:30 PM
Re: The Maximum Value of DLF (dynamic load factor) ????
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Hello Ohlinger
SO, what you are saying is, DLF can be greater than 2.
can u give path to know more about that case where DLF greater than 2.
Thanks Ohliger, TAKE CARE
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#49643 - 07/06/12 01:23 AM
Re: The Maximum Value of DLF (dynamic load factor) ????
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I observed that ...
In user defined time vs force spectrum, If Time duration is more, then DLF crossing 2..
means for short period DLF less than 2
for higher time period DLF can be greater than 2
IS my statements are Correct???
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#49644 - 07/06/12 02:44 AM
Re: The Maximum Value of DLF (dynamic load factor) ????
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Caesar transfer the force over time input to DLF over frequency. DLF over frequency is the same as acceleration over frequency. Means DLF 2 is 2g. The calculation is spectrum method. If your time in your input longer then you get more DLF frequency points. If you see no chnging DLF (higher) at greater frequencys then it is ok. And the last DLF will get for missing mass calculation.
Time duration in dyn Parameter input is for modal Time history method.
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#49648 - 07/06/12 06:16 AM
Re: The Maximum Value of DLF (dynamic load factor) ????
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Ohlinger,
DLF CAN BE GREATER THAN 2,
YES OR NO.
yes when?? no why??
reference please....
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#49652 - 07/06/12 02:05 PM
Re: The Maximum Value of DLF (dynamic load factor) ????
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Ohliger already answered to your questions.
A reference: Humar, Dynamics of Structures, second edn Chapter 6, Forced harmonic vibrations: single-degree-of-freedom system, 6.3. Undamped harmonic vibration, (6.13) expression of the dynamic load factor - pag 249; 6.3. Damped harmonic vibration, (6.32) expression of the dynamic load factor for steady state response - pag 256,; Chapter 7, 7.4 Response to a step function load (for a single-degree-of-freedom system) pag 320; 7.6 Response to a step function load with rise time, expression (7.28) pag 326 and Figure 7.8 Response for a step function load with rise time, pag 327
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#49655 - 07/06/12 06:51 PM
Re: The Maximum Value of DLF (dynamic load factor) ????
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DLF has max of 2.0 for a single application of an impulse load.
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#49662 - 07/06/12 09:32 PM
Re: The Maximum Value of DLF (dynamic load factor) ????
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Thank you Dave & Mariog,
so why in my case it is greater than 2 ??
iam Doing slug analysis (Impluse loading)
Can you please Eloberate..
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#49682 - 07/08/12 09:35 PM
Re: The Maximum Value of DLF (dynamic load factor) ????
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Iam Fresher to this Field,
iam very Thankful marioq, for ur Help
I will go through it once..
Thanks, Durga
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#49687 - 07/09/12 02:24 AM
Re: The Maximum Value of DLF (dynamic load factor) ????
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thank you Marioq,
Every thing is clear..
THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN
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