Dear Members,
I want to know the topic numbers which are related to Piping stress analysis..

Example: If in the 31.3 code, Topics are like thickness calculation, hydrotest, seismic, wind etc..
topics are given as 305, 306, 307.1.2 etc.. so i want those numbers..

Help me..

Thanks a lot in advance

No idea members???????

The rule is the following:

For B31.1 chapters start with 1 (e.g. 105)
For B31.3 chapters start with 3 (e.g. 305)
For B31.4 chapters start with 4 (e.g. 405)
For B31.8 chapters start with 8 (e.g. 805)

Regards,

The rule is the following:

For B31.1 chapters start with 1 (e.g. 105)
For B31.3 chapters start with 3 (e.g. 305)
For B31.4 chapters start with 4 (e.g. 405)
For B31.8 chapters start with 8 (e.g. 805)

Regards,

THANKS FOR THE INFO. BUT I WANT THB PARA NUMBERS WITHIN THE 31.3 WHICI R RELATED TO PIPING FLEXIBILIY AND SUPPORTS, ANY COSIDERATIONS, TABLES ETC.

You could try looking a copy of B31.3 ?

Why do you want others to do this for you ???

Because is easier this way?

The lazy way.

Unfortunately I have a job which I actually get paid to do.

@ Moverz, I'd you don't want to answer ....please don't answer but why discourage others.... We really don't know what Ankit's intentions are.... I have seen a lot of time whenever a new member asks anything people like movers get annoyed& to top it all write discouraging sentences.....Please understand that today generation does not have the luxury of liberal project schedules like old people had so people tend to look for shortcuts& what's the harm in that.... Bottomline is if you can, please answer otherwise just ignore the mail& mind your own business.....

Ankit now to answer your question
For piping design important points starts from chapter 2 design para 301to 321 for materials stress related is 323.4 also some appendixes like p,l,c,k are also important
Please let me know of I have miss something....

Thanks ramanathan for answer
Movers, i have read 31.3 and listed down what I wanted. I just wanted to know if I have missed something. if u dont want to answer then no problem. If u know everything then keep with you don't show it here. Patent ur knowledge so that no body can use it.

Ramanathan,

Firstly I am not all that old. I do not discourage others and I have placed over 800 posts and responses in this forum, mostly I hope, helpful. However I am concerned with the crass level of some posts where the individual clearly has no idea about piping engineering or stress analysis, but apparently knows of Caesar II and may even have access to use it. I do not particularly refer to Ankit's post here.

Secondly you might think a little more carefully. If you have not got time in your schedule to read and understand a document as fundamentally important as ASME B31.3, should you be attempting to do stress analysis in the first place ?

Finally, quote ".... people tend to look for shortcuts & what's the harm in that...." There are plenty of examples in engineering where this sort of attitude has ended in court or in the mortuary. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

MoverZ,
Once again i am repeating that i wanted to confirm what i have listed down, wether anything is missing or not. Posting 800 posts doesnt mean you are an expert to judge anybody's intention to ask question in the COADE Forum. is it clear?

Ankit,

Grow up.

Ankit and ramanathan, you discourage the people to post here. While Movers is not enough diplomatic for you, he is right. The fact that you do not have time is not an excuse. You have seniors, why don't ask them first. They told you to study, isn't it? I don't mind to give advice if I can, but this way you will not learn much.
Many time people asked him for an opinion. This is because they think that his knowledge is valuable.
I seriously think to stop posting. There will be no loss.

Good luck.

ya i know you are grown up dear...

Dear Dan,
This is not about Moverz's answer OR knowledge. If moverz had answer he could have answered otherwise straight away ignonered my question. Being circastic is not a proper way to react, isnt it? And i dont expact from a guy who has posted more that 800 posts. It simply means that he has that attitude of showmanship, correct?

I think he is not a watchman of COADE Forum, who keeps eyes on everybody whoever post a question here, isnt it? And if so that COADE must be paying him for this.

This forum is for adult discussion. You, Ankit make it only too clear that you are not an adult.

Yes watchman..if you are grown up then why dont you stop posting.....

Ankit,

Don't you realise that other readers of this just think you are stupid ?

I will not respond further to your childish, unprofessional comments.

It's past your bedtime. Off you go now.

@Moverz from all these discussions What I understand is childishness & Arrogance is a virtue any person should not possess & you have both these qualities in plenty....so what if you have more than 800 post... That does not gives you any right to post whatever you wish.... Look technology grows when people look to reduce the effort for a task, that's how people innovate...you have a preconceived notions seeing our posts. Please understand these facts & be humble for whatever knowledge you have....

@Dan I am disappointed with your post.... Please today in this high speed world do you think people have time read the full code... Also ASME is a reference material it is not atext book to read. How ppl like Moverz came to conclusion that Ankit have not read the code or have done analysis without it.... This is nothing but superiority complex...

ASME code is core document. When you perform an analysis you state the you comply with its requirements. How you can state this if you do not know the code?

I had this road myself. I was thinking that is all inside Caesar and since my calculation was ok I need no .......code. But I was wrong.

You have money by doing stress analysis. So it is fair to deserve these money.

So as I said, there is no escuse for this. I had no time as well, there is nothing new. No one helped me. But I built my castle brick by brick. Stupid thing, you may say.

Some people are enthusiasts (like SJ), other are distructive.

Me, I'm tired. So I will take a long, long break.

Regards,

@Dan I agree people should learn code... but that does not prevent other helping to find reference material.... Castles are not build overnight! It is build on platforms created by others... What people like moverz want is people should reinvent wheel again & again.... It's like we should learn c language to use windows....

Ramanathan,

What on earth do you mean ? Reinvent the wheel ? What rubbish. Learn the basics, do the job responsibly and properly.

Just becuase you can run Caesar does not mean you are a stress engineer. Caesar is a superb piece of software but it does the numbers only. To properly understand it you MUST know the Codes and regulations under which it functions. To properly understand the Codes you need to READ them.

Regarding your comment on 'c language' That's rubbish too .... I personally think that users of Caesar and similar should understand the maths on which it is based ... stiffness matrix etc. Without this knowledge you cannot understand or react to ill-conditioning and other risks inherent in such complex math solutions.

Ankit, Ramananthan:

If you need assistance in understanding the code, in addition to reading the code and talking with more experienced stress engineers who you hopefully work with, I would suggest also getting a good companion book to the code, such as CASTI Guidebook to ASME B31.3 (authors G.E. Woods and R.B. Baguley), and reading that also.

I'm afraid that while some of danb and MoverZ's responses did not sit well with you, everything they have said is correct. It is good, Ankit, that you showed a desire to increase your understanding of the code, but the way you went about it wasn't right. I'm sure it wasn't your intent, but you came across as asking to be spoon-fed the code. There isn't an easy shortcut to a good understanding of any technical code, but taking the time to read it is the logical starting point.

And ramanathan, sometimes just ignoring something (as you suggested danb and MoverZ do with Ankit's posts) and hoping it will go away is not the best course of action.

I'm receiving complaints about this thread. I think the points have been made. I'm closing this thread.