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#41532 - 03/08/11 11:24 AM 5.3 element delete
PKU Offline
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I have a large model and trying to modify some of the element inserting flanges and deleting few elements. It doesn't delete the current element instead deletes the previous element. To avoid this problem I am forced to open the list element and delete from there. I am really fed up with endless problems with 5.3 and I feel 5.2 was better time saving.
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#41537 - 03/08/11 07:04 PM Re: 5.3 element delete [Re: PKU]
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Registered: 03/02/11
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Sometimes, I have the same problem as you. When I try to modify or delete some nodes, the model will appear coordinate x,y and z. After that some nodes disappeared. So how can I control this problem?.

Thanks For your advises.

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#41540 - 03/08/11 09:22 PM Re: 5.3 element delete [Re: hungmanh]
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We have not encountered a "delete" issue with any version, send the model in to TechSupport with instructions on how to reproduce the problem.

As to the "xyz coordinates" appearing after you delete some elements, that makes sense if you break the model into pieces. CAESAR II will automatically prompt for coordinates of the starting node of the disconnected segment.
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#41560 - 03/10/11 12:44 AM Re: 5.3 element delete [Re: Richard Ay]
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@ hungmanh,

After you delete some nodes, you should rename the first node to connect with the previous node.

eg.:

10 - 20
20 - 30
30 - 40

if you delete 20 - 30 you should rename the node 30 as 20.

10 - 20
20 - 40

Guess this was your question.
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#41611 - 03/13/11 11:21 AM Re: 5.3 element delete [Re: ________]
PKU Offline
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Registered: 08/18/06
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Loc: Aberdeen
Richard
Try this. Insert any element in a model. Try deleting the element after the inserted element, it will delete the inserted element. Next if you put the cursor at TO node of the element see the result. Next if you put the cursor at FROM node and see the result. you will come to know the problem.
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#41625 - 03/14/11 01:20 PM Re: 5.3 element delete [Re: PKU]
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I have tried this and it works perfectly. I cannot reproduce the problem. Are you using Ctrl D to delete the element when on its spreadsheet? I don't notice anything strange with my cursor on the From Node or To Node.
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#41628 - 03/15/11 01:17 AM Re: 5.3 element delete [Re: Loren Brown]
Dnyanesh Offline
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Registered: 04/08/02
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Loc: India/Germany
Hello Pankaj,

While working with large models I have experienced a typical problem even for earlier versions. When I move spread sheet up or down some of the fields do not get updated. Sometimes, when I delete/modify support type the change is momentary. If you revisit the spread sheet you dont see the change you made just before. I think it is more related to processor speed than the software bug. For better working with large model I suggest to follow as below.

When you are working with the nodes in between the model (Not at the start/End) always generate a dummy element which connects the nodes on either sides of the node you intend to work with. e.g. you have model starting from node 100 to node 2000 with step of +10. You want to delete/modify at node between 500-600. First add dummy element from 400 to 700 (rigid 0 weight) before you modify/delete element at 500-600. This help to keep the co-ordinates intact and do not distort the model's overview. Once you are through with modifications delete the dummy element.
Hope this helps to resolve your problem. Good Luck.


Edited by Dnyanesh (03/15/11 02:16 AM)
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