#20925 - 09/22/08 02:51 AM
Seismic Data
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Dear sir,
How to get the "Sp -design level peak acceleration for non-ASCE=0.28000" ?
above value from TANK example.
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#20936 - 09/22/08 07:30 AM
Re: Seismic Data
[Re: maxmang]
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That data is "supposed" to be given to you. If not, you'll have to look in the governing local seismic code.
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#21820 - 10/26/08 06:50 AM
Re: Seismic Data
[Re: maxmang]
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Registered: 10/25/08
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Dear Sir, I have a problem about seismic calculation. In the anchor bolt details, seismic loads are calculated as "0" by the program. But this region is first degree eartquake zone in Turkey. I think something is wrong. Can you check my inputs and tell me is there something wrong with the input values??
Inputs, seismic calculations and anchor bolts details are below:
API-650/653 GENERAL TANK DATA API-650 10th Edition, Addendum 4, Dec. 2005 API Design Code ( 650 or 653 )......................... 650 Design Method (V, O, or A) ............................ O (V=variable, O=one foot, A=Appendix A) Run Objective (D=design, A=analyze) ................... D Design Temperature ...............................(C ) 150.00 Design Pressure at Top ....................(KPa ) 0.00000 Shell Material ........................................ Shell Design Stress [Sd] ..................(KPa ) -6.9642 Shell Hydro Test Stress [St] ..............(KPa ) -6.9642 Tank Nominal Diameter [D] ........................(m. ) 40.090 Tank Shell Height [HTK] ..........................(m. ) 12.500 Design Liquid Level [H] ..........................(m. ) 12.040 Liquid Specific Gravity [G] ........................... 0.96700 Weight of Attachments/Structures..................(N. ) 0.00000 Distance down to Top Wind Girder .................(m. ) 0.00000 Joint Efficiency (App A or 653) [E] ................... 0.85000 Wind Velocity .............................(M./sec. ) 36.000 Insulation Thickness .............................(mm.) 0.00000 Insulation Density ........................(kg./cu.cm.) 0.00000 Include Annular Base Plate Details .................... Yes Include Wind Moment in Appendix F_4_2 Calculations .... Yes Number of Shell Courses ............................... 8 Shell Course # 1 Height ..........................(m. ) 2.0000 Shell Course # 1 Thickness .......................(mm.) 18.000 Shell Course # 1 Corrosion Allowance [CA] ........(mm.) 1.0000 Shell Course # 2 Height ..........................(m. ) 1.5000 Shell Course # 2 Thickness .......................(mm.) 15.000 Shell Course # 2 Corrosion Allowance [CA] ........(mm.) 1.0000 Shell Course # 3 Height ..........................(m. ) 1.5000 Shell Course # 3 Thickness .......................(mm.) 14.000 Shell Course # 3 Corrosion Allowance [CA] ........(mm.) 1.0000 Shell Course # 4 Height ..........................(m. ) 1.5000 Shell Course # 4 Thickness .......................(mm.) 12.000 Shell Course # 4 Corrosion Allowance [CA] ........(mm.) 1.0000 Shell Course # 5 Height ..........................(m. ) 1.5000 Shell Course # 5 Thickness .......................(mm.) 10.000 Shell Course # 5 Corrosion Allowance [CA] ........(mm.) 1.0000 Shell Course # 6 Height ..........................(m. ) 1.5000 Shell Course # 6 Thickness .......................(mm.) 8.0000 Shell Course # 6 Corrosion Allowance [CA] ........(mm.) 1.0000 Shell Course # 7 Height ..........................(m. ) 1.5000 Shell Course # 7 Thickness .......................(mm.) 8.0000 Shell Course # 7 Corrosion Allowance [CA] ........(mm.) 1.0000 Shell Course # 8 Height ..........................(m. ) 1.5000 Shell Course # 8 Thickness .......................(mm.) 8.0000 Shell Course # 8 Corrosion Allowance [CA] ........(mm.) 1.0000 TANK SHELL COURSE MATERIALS Shell Course # 1 Material Name ........................ A-516,65 Shell Course # 1 Design Stress [Sd] .......(KPa ) 0.16064E+06 Shell Course # 1 Hydro Test Stress [St] ...(KPa ) 0.18133E+06 Shell Course # 1 Minimum Yield Stress .....(KPa ) 0.24131E+06 Shell Course # 1 Minimum Tensile Stress ...(KPa ) 0.44815E+06 Shell Course # 1 Maximum Thickness ..............(mm. ) 38.100 Shell Course # 1 Material Grade ....................... 65 Shell Course # 1 Material Group ....................... 4 Shell Course # 2 Material Name ........................ A-516,65 Shell Course # 2 Design Stress [Sd] .......(KPa ) 0.16064E+06 Shell Course # 2 Hydro Test Stress [St] ...(KPa ) 0.18133E+06 Shell Course # 2 Minimum Yield Stress .....(KPa ) 0.24131E+06 Shell Course # 2 Minimum Tensile Stress ...(KPa ) 0.44815E+06 Shell Course # 2 Maximum Thickness ..............(mm. ) 38.100 Shell Course # 2 Material Grade ....................... 65 Shell Course # 2 Material Group ....................... 4 Shell Course # 3 Material Name ........................ A-285 Shell Course # 3 Design Stress [Sd] .......(KPa ) 0.13789E+06 Shell Course # 3 Hydro Test Stress [St] ...(KPa ) 0.15513E+06 Shell Course # 3 Minimum Yield Stress .....(KPa ) 0.20684E+06 Shell Course # 3 Minimum Tensile Stress ...(KPa ) 0.37920E+06 Shell Course # 3 Maximum Thickness ..............(mm. ) 25.400 Shell Course # 3 Material Grade ....................... C Shell Course # 3 Material Group ....................... 1 Shell Course # 4 Material Name ........................ A-285 Shell Course # 4 Design Stress [Sd] .......(KPa ) 0.13789E+06 Shell Course # 4 Hydro Test Stress [St] ...(KPa ) 0.15513E+06 Shell Course # 4 Minimum Yield Stress .....(KPa ) 0.20684E+06 Shell Course # 4 Minimum Tensile Stress ...(KPa ) 0.37920E+06 Shell Course # 4 Maximum Thickness ..............(mm. ) 25.400 Shell Course # 4 Material Grade ....................... C Shell Course # 4 Material Group ....................... 1 Shell Course # 5 Material Name ........................ A-285 Shell Course # 5 Design Stress [Sd] .......(KPa ) 0.13789E+06 Shell Course # 5 Hydro Test Stress [St] ...(KPa ) 0.15513E+06 Shell Course # 5 Minimum Yield Stress .....(KPa ) 0.20684E+06 Shell Course # 5 Minimum Tensile Stress ...(KPa ) 0.37920E+06 Shell Course # 5 Maximum Thickness ..............(mm. ) 25.400 Shell Course # 5 Material Grade ....................... C Shell Course # 5 Material Group ....................... 1 Shell Course # 6 Material Name ........................ A-285 Shell Course # 6 Design Stress [Sd] .......(KPa ) 0.13789E+06 Shell Course # 6 Hydro Test Stress [St] ...(KPa ) 0.15513E+06 Shell Course # 6 Minimum Yield Stress .....(KPa ) 0.20684E+06 Shell Course # 6 Minimum Tensile Stress ...(KPa ) 0.37920E+06 Shell Course # 6 Maximum Thickness ..............(mm. ) 25.400 Shell Course # 6 Material Grade ....................... C Shell Course # 6 Material Group ....................... 1 Shell Course # 7 Material Name ........................ A-285 Shell Course # 7 Design Stress [Sd] .......(KPa ) 0.13789E+06 Shell Course # 7 Hydro Test Stress [St] ...(KPa ) 0.15513E+06 Shell Course # 7 Minimum Yield Stress .....(KPa ) 0.20684E+06 Shell Course # 7 Minimum Tensile Stress ...(KPa ) 0.37920E+06 Shell Course # 7 Maximum Thickness ..............(mm. ) 25.400 Shell Course # 7 Material Grade ....................... C Shell Course # 7 Material Group ....................... 1 Shell Course # 8 Material Name ........................ A-285 Shell Course # 8 Design Stress [Sd] .......(KPa ) 0.13789E+06 Shell Course # 8 Hydro Test Stress [St] ...(KPa ) 0.15513E+06 Shell Course # 8 Minimum Yield Stress .....(KPa ) 0.20684E+06 Shell Course # 8 Minimum Tensile Stress ...(KPa ) 0.37920E+06 Shell Course # 8 Maximum Thickness ..............(mm. ) 25.400 Shell Course # 8 Material Grade ....................... C Shell Course # 8 Material Group ....................... 1 ANCHOR BOLT DETAILS Anchor Bolt Diameter (optional) ..................(mm.) 0.00000 Threads per Unit Length ........................(1/mm.) 0.31496 Bolt Allowable Stress .....................(KPa ) 0.13789E+06 Number of Anchor Bolts (optional) ..................... 0.00000 Bolt Yield Stress .........................(KPa ) 0.24821E+06 Bolt Offset from Mean Tank Diameter ..............(m. ) 0.10000 Anchor Bolt Corrosion Allowance (optional) .......(mm.) 3.0000 Wind Data Kz parameter .......................................... 1.0400 Kzt parameter ......................................... 1.0000 Kd parameter .......................................... 0.95000 Importance Factor (I) ................................. 1.0000 Gust Factor (G) ....................................... 0.85000 API-650 ROOF DETAILS SPECIFICATION Roof Type (1-4) ....................................... 1 (1=Supt Cone 2=Rafter Supt Cone 3=Cone 4=Dome 5=Umbrella) Angle Between Roof and Horizontal ................(deg) 5.0000 Net Area at Roof/Shell Junction [A] ...........(sq.mm.) 0.10000E+07 Thickness of Roof Plate ..........................(mm.) 6.0000 Roof Plate Corrosion Allowance ...................(mm.) 1.0000 Weight of Snow on Roof ...........................(N. ) 0.15355E+07 Roof Live Load ............................(N/M2 ) 1200.0 ---/ For General Roof, No Design /--- Weight of Roof Plates ............................(N. ) 0.00000 Weight of Roof Framing ...........................(N. ) 0.00000 Pct of Weights Supported by Shell ..................... 0.00000 ---/ For Supported Cone Roof Design /--- Preferred Rafter Type (W, WT, S, C) ................... S Preferred Girder Type (W, WT, S, C) ................... C Preferred Column Type (W, WT, S, C, DC, DI, P ) ....... P Roof Plate Material ................................... A-285 Roof Plate Allowable Design Stress ........(KPa ) 0.13789E+06 Structural Member Material ............................ A-285 Structural Member Allowable Design Stress..(KPa ) 0.13789E+06 Maximum Allowed Rafter Length ....................(m. ) 7.2000 Maximum Allowed Girder Length ....................(m. ) 9.0000 Center Column Cap Plate Diameter .................(m. ) 2.0000 ---/ For Analysis of Supported Cone Roofs /--- Number of Girder Rings (Optional) .................... 2 Radius to Girder Ring 1 (Optional) ...............(m. ) 8.0834 Radius to Girder Ring 2 (Optional) ...............(m. ) 13.759 Number of Girders in Ring 1 (Optional) ................ 6 Number of Girders in Ring 2 (Optional) ................ 12 API-650 SEISMIC DATA (App E.) Minimum Yield Strength of Bottom Plate .....(KPa 0.20500E+06 Minimum Yield Strength of Weld Material ....(KPa 0.55000E+06 Nominal Thickness of Bottom Plate (tb) ..........(mm. ) 8.0000 Seismic Use Group (SUG)................................ 3.0000 Friction Factor ....................................... 0.20000 Importance Factor ..................................... 1.5000 Initial Anchorage Type ................................ M Earthquake Type ....................................... S Site Class ............................................ 5.0000 Spectral Acceleration Adjustment Coefficient (K) ...... 1.5000 Scaling Factor (Q) .................................... 0.70000 Transtiional Period (TL) .............................. 60.000 Mapped maximum earthquake for short periods (Ss) ...... 0.00000 Mapped maximum earthquake for 1 sec periods (S1) ...... 0.00000 Mapped maximum earthquake for 0 sec period (S0) ...... 0.00000 Non-ASCE peak ground acceleration (Sp) ................ 0.00000 ASCE short period design acceleration parameter (SDS).. 0.00000 --- Site Specific Data --- Spectral acceleation parameter at 0 period (Sa0*) ..... 0.00000 Spectral acceleation parameter at any period (Sa*) .... 0.00000 COMPUTATION CONTROL DIRECTIVES ROOF_PROJECTION_IN_WIND_MOMENT= YES SHELL_THICK_CONVERG_TOLERANCE= 0.12699999 mm. GENERATE_MESSAGE_FILE= YES COSINE_CURVE_TOLERANCE= 0.30000001 COSINE_CURVE_ITERATION_LIMIT= 100.00000 WIND_GIRDER_SHELL_THICKNESS= MAX SHELL_SETTLEMENT_METHOD= LEAST_SQUARES CORRODED_NOZZLES= YES 653_CORRODED_HYDROTEST_CASE= YES THICKNESS_ROUNDUP_TO_NEAREST= 0.00000000 mm. PLATE_MATERIAL_DENSITY= 0.78500481E-02 kg./cu.cm. MODIFY_FLUID_HEIGHT_BY_PRESSURE= YES ROUND_ANCHOR_BOLTS_BY= 4.0000000 WIND_MOMENT_IN_APP_F Sect_3.9.7.1 FULL_SHELL_WEIGHT_IN_APP_F YES
SEISMIC EVALUATION RESULTS - Appendix E API-650 10th Edition, Addendum 4, Dec. 2005 Site-Specific Ground Motion Design Fluid Weight (N. ) 0.14397E+09 Sp -design level peak accel for nonASCE 0.00000 Ss -MCE at period of 0.2 seconds 0.00000 S0 -MCE at period of 0.0 seconds 0.00000 S1 -MCD at period of 1.0 seconds 0.00000 SDS-design spectral accel parameter 0.00000 FA -acceleration based site coefficient 2.5000 FV -velocity based site coefficient 3.5000 TS - FvS1 / FaSs NaN TC -convective sloshing period (sec) 7.4004 Ac -convective spectral accel parameter 0.00000 Ai -impulsive spectral accel parameter 0.00000 Wc -effective convective fluid weight(N. ) 0.88347E+08 Wi -effective impulsive fluid weight (N. ) 0.49616E+08 Vc -convective liquid base shear (N. ) 0.00000 Vi -impulsive liquid base shear (N. ) 0.00000 V -total design base shear (N. ) 0.00000 VS -shear resistance (N. ) 0.29412E+08 Xc -ring wall convective moment arm (m. ) 6.5635 Xi -ring wall impulsive moment arm (m. ) 4.5150 XCS-slab convective moment arm (m. ) 14.206 XIS-slab impulsive moment arm (m. ) 15.960 WS -shell+appurtenances weight (N. ) 0.13800E+07 Wrs-roof, framing 10% snow weight (N. ) 0.00000 Mrw-ringwall overturning moment (N.m. ) 0.00000 Ms -slab overturning moment (N.m. ) 0.00000 AV -vertical acceleration parameter 0.00000 Ge -effective specific gravity 0.96700 wa -resisting annulus force (N./cm. ) 0.00000 wt -tank + roof weight at shell base (N./cm. ) 0.00000 J -the anchorage ratio 0.00000 L -reqd min annular plate projection (m. ) 0.00000 Wab-Minimum anchorage resistance (N./cm. ) 0.00000 N -number of anchor bolts required 44 Pab-anchor seismic design load (N. ) 0.00000 Sc -shell compressive stress (KPa ) 0.00000 Sa -shell allowable stress (KPa ) 34589. Height of sloshing wave (m. ) NaN Required Freeboard (m. ) NaN Course Hoop Stress Hoop Allowable (KPa ) (KPa ) 1 67153. 0.18460E+06 2 73064. 0.18460E+06 3 43431. 0.15823E+06 4 45078. 0.15823E+06 5 46178. 0.15823E+06 6 22654. 0.15823E+06 7 13845. 0.15823E+06 8 4331.2 0.15823E+06 Seismic Evaluation Summary. Seismic shell stress check passed. Base shear within limits. Hoop stress within allowable.
ANCHOR BOLT DETAILS - Section 3.12 API-650 10th Edition, Addendum 4, Dec. 2005 Case Uplift Allowable Load/Bolt (N. ) Bolt Stress (N. ) (KPa ) Design Pressure : 0.00000 90947. 0.00000 Test Pressure : 0.00000 121263. 0.00000 Failure Pressure : 0.00000 218274. 0.00000 Wind Loading : 0.45331E+06 174619. 10303. Seismic OPE : 0.00000 174619. 0.00000 Design Press + Wind Load : 0.00000 121263. 0.00000 Design Press + Seismic OPE : 0.00000 174619. 0.00000 ANCHOR BOLT RESULTS - Section 3.12 Case Number Bolt Bolt Stress of Bolts Diameter (KPa ) (mm. ) Design Pressure : 44 28.575 0. Test Pressure : 44 28.575 0. Failure Pressure : 44 28.575 0. Wind Loading : 44 28.575 25954. Seismic OPE : 44 28.575 0. Design Press + Wind Load : 44 28.575 0. Design Press + Seismic OPE : 44 28.575 0. Final Anchor Bolt Spacing .............. (m. ) 2.88 Anchor bolts are required.
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#21825 - 10/26/08 08:25 PM
Re: Seismic Data
[Re: Burak]
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Mapped maximum earthquake for short periods (Ss) ...... 0.00000 Mapped maximum earthquake for 1 sec periods (S1) ...... 0.00000 Mapped maximum earthquake for 0 sec period (S0) ...... 0.00000 Non-ASCE peak ground acceleration (Sp) ................ 0.00000 ASCE short period design acceleration parameter (SDS).. 0.00000 --- Site Specific Data --- Spectral acceleation parameter at 0 period (Sa0*) ..... 0.00000 Spectral acceleation parameter at any period (Sa*) .... 0.00000 You have no seismic load, most of your input is "zero".
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#37221 - 08/04/10 03:07 AM
Re: Seismic Data
[Re: Richard Ay]
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design pressure = full liquid + 0.01bar so how to give the input for design pressure tank height - 15m tank dia - 15m design specific gravity - 1.114
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#37243 - 08/04/10 11:47 AM
Re: Seismic Data
[Re: Robert anto reni]
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You would input 0.01bar for the pressure. The software will take care of the fluid head if required.
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#40381 - 01/23/11 08:59 AM
Re: Seismic Data
[Re: Richard Ay]
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Registered: 01/23/11
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Loc: Lima, Peru
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Hi Richard, how i should input this seismic data, i have the response spectrum, can you help me?
sec Seismic Spectral Time Amplification Pseudo Coeff Acceleration 0.1 2.5 0.3 0.2 2.5 0.3 0.3 2.5 0.3 0.4 2.5 0.3 0.5 2.5 0.3 0.6 2.5 0.3 0.7 2.142857143 0.257142857 0.8 1.875 0.225 0.9 1.666666667 0.2 1 1.5 0.18 1.1 1.363636364 0.163636364 1.2 1.25 0.15 1.3 1.153846154 0.138461538 1.4 1.071428571 0.128571429 1.5 1 0.12 1.6 0.9375 0.1125 1.7 0.882352941 0.105882353 1.8 0.833333333 0.1 1.9 0.789473684 0.094736842 2 0.75 0.09 2.1 0.714285714 0.085714286 2.2 0.681818182 0.081818182 2.3 0.652173913 0.07826087 2.4 0.625 0.075 2.5 0.6 0.072 2.6 0.576923077 0.069230769 2.7 0.555555556 0.066666667 2.8 0.535714286 0.064285714 2.9 0.517241379 0.062068966 3 0.5 0.06 3.1 0.483870968 0.058064516 3.2 0.46875 0.05625 3.3 0.454545455 0.054545455 3.4 0.441176471 0.052941176 3.5 0.428571429 0.051428571 3.6 0.416666667 0.05 3.7 0.405405405 0.048648649 3.8 0.394736842 0.047368421 3.9 0.384615385 0.046153846 4 0.375 0.045 4.1 0.365853659 0.043902439 4.2 0.357142857 0.042857143 4.3 0.348837209 0.041860465 4.4 0.340909091 0.040909091 4.5 0.333333333 0.04 4.6 0.326086957 0.039130435 4.7 0.319148936 0.038297872 4.8 0.3125 0.0375 4.9 0.306122449 0.036734694 5 0.3 0.036 5.1 0.294117647 0.035294118 5.2 0.288461538 0.034615385 5.3 0.283018868 0.033962264 5.4 0.277777778 0.033333333 5.5 0.272727273 0.032727273 5.6 0.267857143 0.032142857 5.7 0.263157895 0.031578947 5.8 0.25862069 0.031034483 5.9 0.254237288 0.030508475 6 0.25 0.03
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spectrum.txt (621 downloads)
Edited by NelsonAstete (01/23/11 09:00 AM)
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#40390 - 01/24/11 02:20 AM
Re: Seismic Data
[Re: NelsonAstete]
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For me it is not clear what does it means "you have the response spectrum".
First it is not clear if your task is to consider an ASCE 7 approach or a Non-Asce approach.
As a personal opinion, looking to the data it seems that your spectrum has been "constructed" by applying SS = 2.5 SP and S1 = 1.5 SP, so I can speculate it is under a local regulation. Or maybe it was already considered as the response spectrum values for 5% for impulsive and 0.5% damping for the convective behavior (as 1.5 times the 5% spectral values).
Also, your spectrum seems that does not include any modification for site soil conditions, case in which it must be modified to define the "site design" spectrum- by considering soil amplification coefficients (Fa and Fv), the value of the importance factor, I; and the ASD response modification factors (Rwi and Rwc). This is done by Tank based on your specific input of the parameters.
So my advice it is to clarify to which requirement/ approach of API 650 addresses your response spectrum.
In fact, API starts with a spectrum and modify it for "soil condition", for importance, for "modification factors", making difference between 5% damping (as impulsive- short periods) to 0.5% damping - for "convective" sloshing, "large" periods. To understand what I'm talking about, I extracted form API 650 some figures and put together to your "spectrum" chart. Comparing the figures you can understand what it is the meaning of API spectrum parameters vs. your spectrum. But the base it is to study Appendix E and EC of API, and-of course- to understand what means the spectrum you have in your hands.
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#40427 - 01/25/11 01:51 AM
Re: Seismic Data
[Re: NelsonAstete]
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Dear Nelson,
I would like to give you a more specific answer. Unfortunately, the first step should be by you- you must have more specific information about your spectrum.
You may be in one of the following cases.
1. (E.4.1 MAPPED ASCE 7 METHOD) For sites located in the USA, or where the ASCE 7 method is the regulatory requirement,
SS is the mapped, maximum considered earthquake, 5% damped, spectral response acceleration parameter at short periods (0.2 seconds). S1 is the mapped, maximum considered earthquake, 5% damped, spectral response acceleration parameter at a period of 1 second. S0 is the mapped, maximum considered earthquake, 5% damped, spectral response acceleration parameter at zero seconds (usually referred to as the peak ground acceleration). Unless otherwise specified or determined, S0 shall be defined as 0.4SS when using the mapped methods.
If is your case, you can read SS, S1 from your spectrum and calculate S0 as 0.4SS. The spectral response accelerations must be modified by the appropriate site coefficients, Fa and Fv from Tables E-1 and E-2. The scaling factor, Q, is defined as 2/3 for the ASCE 7 methods.
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2. (E.4.2 SITE-SPECIFIC SPECTRAL RESPONSE ACCELERATIONS)
If design for an MCE site-specific ground motion is desired, or required, the site–specific study and response spectrum shall be provided by the Purchaser as defined this section.
Site-specific determination of the ground motion is required when the tank is located on Site Class F type soils.
Design using site-specific ground motions should be considered where any of the following apply: • The tank is located within 10 km (6 miles) of a known active fault. • The structure is designed using base isolation or energy dissipation systems, which is beyond the scope of this appendix. • The performance requirements desired by the owner or regulatory body exceed the goal of this appendix.
The rules are given in E.4.2.2 Probabilistic Site-Specific MCE Ground Motion E.4.2.3 Deterministic Site-Specific MCE Ground Motion E.4.2.4 Site-Specific MCE Ground Motions If is the case, your spectrum includes site soil effects and you have to continue under E.4.6.2 Site-Specific Response Spectra. The design method for a site-specific spectral response is based on the provisions of ASCE 7 and consequently, Q is defined as 2/3.
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3. (E.4.3 SITES NOT DEFINED BY ASCE 7 METHODS) In regions outside the USA, where the regulatory requirements for determining design ground motion differ from the ASCE 7 methods prescribed in this appendix, the following methods may be utilized: 1. A response spectrum complying with the regulatory requirements may be used providing it is based on, or adjusted to, a basis of 5% and 0.5% damping as required in this appendix. The values of the design spectral acceleration coefficients, Ai and Ac, which include the effects of site amplification, importance factor and response modification may be determined directly. Ai shall be based on the calculated impulsive period of the tank (see E.4.5.1) using the 5% damped spectra, or the period may be assumed to be 0.2 seconds. Ac shall be based on the calculated convective period (see E.4.5.2) using the 0.5% spectra. 2. If no response spectra shape is prescribed and only the peak ground acceleration, SP, is defined, then the following substitutions shall apply: SS = 2.5 SP (E.4.3-1) S1 = 1.25 SP (E.4.3-2) [For sites where only the peak ground acceleration is defined, substitute SP for S0, as permitted by E.4.6.1]
If this is your case, you have in hands a spectrum which was already provided "by others". It may be the design spectral response acceleration- as defined by E.4.3 point 1, so you can read directly Ai and Ac. More probably it is a ground motion spectrum and you can read SS and S1 from your spectrum and go ahead with calculation, modifying this spectrum by the appropriate site coefficients, Fa and Fv from Tables E-1 and E-2. Q may be taken equal to 1.0 unless otherwise defined in the regulatory requirements where ASCE 7 does not apply.
Best regards.
Edited by mariog (01/25/11 03:12 AM)
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#40452 - 01/25/11 10:43 PM
Re: Seismic Data
[Re: mariog]
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Registered: 01/23/11
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Mario thanks for your reply. You 're right i built the spectrum under local regulation and soil parameter (S), site class factor (coast++ sierra+ or jungle, Z), seismic amplification (C in function of soil studies), importance factor (U) even structure Quotient Reduction (R) the formula is the following: Spectral Acel: S = Z U C S / R , i think that you said before apply More probably it is a ground motion spectrum and you can read SS and S1 from your spectrum and go ahead with calculation, modifying this spectrum by the appropriate site coefficients, Fa and Fv from Tables E-1 and E-2. Q may be taken equal to 1.0 unless otherwise defined in the regulatory requirements where ASCE 7 does not apply.
then i 'll get: Ss , S1, Q =1 ...which is the minimum input necesary for operate seismic data calculus in tank ?
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#40454 - 01/26/11 01:58 AM
Re: Seismic Data
[Re: NelsonAstete]
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Nelson,
It seems that you already constructed a Site-Specific Response Spectra based on your local code. In my opinion, for your case it is not necessary to build-up a Site-Specific Response Spectra, it is necessary to feed Tank with data to follow API/Appendix E calculation. In this case the site-specific spectrum (as is considered by API) remains "in back" of this calculation.
The difference is that your "constructed" spectrum would not comply 100% with API 650 approach (remember that in fact API considers two spectra, one 5% damped, for impulsive and one 0.5% damped, for convective cases).
So if I were you I would start the input with:
SP=S0=Z (because in your code, Z- Seismic Zone Factor seems to be the peak ground acceleration, similar with a lot of non-ASCE codes). SS = 2.5 SP (see E.4.3-1) S1 = 1.25 SP (see E.4.3-2)- if here are differences in your code as S1 = 1.5 SP, you can apply them
The rest of parameters would be identified by comparing your code (ZUCS/R) with API 650 Code, i.e. -U is similar with I (maybe in your Code is exceeding API classification, so you need to be conservative at this point) -CS seems to be similar with Fa, but under API 650 you need also Fv, so please check if there is something similar in your Code (the best should be to not mix the Codes and to consider for your soil directly Fa and Fv as in API 650). -R is similar with Rw, but API gives in Table E-4—two specific for tanks Response Modification Factors one for impulsive case, the second for convective, while your Code probably have nothing specific for tanks, so I would prefer to consider values as in E-4. -Q=1 as for Non-Asce code (because your Code seems to consider Z as "475 years repeatability" peak ground acceleration (damping = 5%), similar with UBC code).
My opinion- of course; please double check the above comparison between codes.
Best regards.
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#40521 - 01/27/11 06:38 PM
Re: Seismic Data
[Re: mariog]
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i found out the file with peak ground acceleration (damping = 5%) as "475 years repeatability" dor my city, at: T=0s S=0.4g T=0.2s S=0.94g T=1s S=0.36g i guessed the next for Tank input:
Seismic User Group = 1 Friction Factor = 0.4 Importance Factor = 1 Initial Anchorage = self Earthquake Type = Mapped Spectral Acel Adjustment Coeff k= EMPTY Transitional Period TL = 4 Mapped Max short period Ss =0.94 Mapped Max 1sec period S1 =0.36 Mapped Max 0sec period S0=0.4 Peak Ground Sp =0.4 Sds = EMPTY Sa 0* = EMPTY Sa* = EMPTY
Mario, review and i hope you would make some comments please
Thanks and Regards
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