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#37618 - 08/23/10 01:21 PM trunnion on a straight pipe in CAESAR II/Temperature
most2050 Offline
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I have two questions;
1- Shall “modeling a trunnion on a straight pipe in CAESAR II as a welding reinforced tee” be a fair approximation to check local stresses?!
My concern is what SIF I should apply at StriaghtPipe-Trunnion intersection. Please advise.
2- What temperature should be applied at the trunnion?! Is it going to be the same as the header?!
Thank you


Edited by most2050 (08/23/10 01:27 PM)

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#37621 - 08/23/10 03:41 PM Re: trunnion on a straight pipe in CAESAR II/Temperature [Re: most2050]
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1) You don't need to apply an SIF here, you haven't cut a hole in the pipe.

2) Maybe, it depends on the state of the insulation, how hot the pipe is, how long the trunnion is, etc. I don't think there is a definite answer to this one.
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#37665 - 08/25/10 11:31 AM Re: trunnion on a straight pipe in CAESAR II/Temperature [Re: Richard Ay]
Bob Zimmerman Offline
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It is preferred to check the trunnion local stress OUTSIDE of CII. Use the loads from the CII output and perform the local stress calc by the "line method" or other means.
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#37703 - 08/27/10 07:28 AM Re: trunnion on a straight pipe in CAESAR II/Temperature [Re: Bob Zimmerman]
Reub Offline
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Richard

"1) You don't need to apply an SIF here, you haven't cut a hole in the pipe."


However, assuming the trunion is attached to the main pipe by a fillet weld all around, which according to ASME Table D300 will have SIF of 2.1 ( for fillet welds) max.

Please clarify your statement.

Thanks

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#37709 - 08/28/10 11:59 AM Re: trunnion on a straight pipe in CAESAR II/Temperature [Re: Reub]
Richard Ay Offline
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The Code does specifically address this geometry. I do not believe the Code SIF should be applied at this location to increase the bending stress component of the Code Stress.

But you are correct, there is a weld there that "may" reduce the strength of this connection.
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