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#36348 - 06/22/10 12:29 PM About compressor and reboiler piping stress analysis.
PDSE Offline
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Registered: 09/12/09
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Dear All,

Please help me in the following topics,
1. What are the important criterias to be considered while doing stress analysis of piping connected to reboiler.
2. what is the Datum Point in the compressor piping stress analysis to resolve the forces and moments.

Please reply ASAP.

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
PDSE

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#36360 - 06/23/10 04:38 AM Re: About compressor and reboiler piping stress analysis. [Re: PDSE]
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1. Most important criteria, if in doubt ask. But ask your boss, not this forum. Your question is too broad.

2. Datum point should always be confirmed with the compressor vendor, varies with machine type and number of nozzles.

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#36409 - 06/25/10 01:52 AM Re: About compressor and reboiler piping stress analysis. [Re: MoverZ]
PDSE Offline
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Registered: 09/12/09
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Dear MoverZ,

Thanks for your reply.

But no one is here to guide me.

Please explain these topics atleast in brief.(If possible with examples)


Thanking You.

Regards,
PDSE

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#36411 - 06/25/10 02:16 AM Re: About compressor and reboiler piping stress analysis. [Re: PDSE]
MoverZ Offline
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Registered: 11/22/06
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You cannot learn stress from this forum. Employ someone with relevant experience, otherwise you will probably engineer a fatal accident.

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#36744 - 07/08/10 09:41 PM Re: About compressor and reboiler piping stress analysis. [Re: MoverZ]
NiTiN Stress Offline
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Registered: 10/22/09
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hi,
PDSE,
i HAVE VERY GOOD ARTICLE RELATING REBOILER GIVE ME UR EMAIL ID, I WILL SEND YOU, WHICH MAY BE USEFUL TO U!

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#36747 - 07/08/10 10:27 PM Re: About compressor and reboiler piping stress analysis. [Re: NiTiN Stress]
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Registered: 10/16/09
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Loc: India
Hi Nitin

Would you please send it to me too. My ID is "mech.yusufi@hotmail.com"

Thanks a lot.
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Zahid

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#36750 - 07/08/10 11:41 PM Re: About compressor and reboiler piping stress analysis. [Re: Zahid_mech]
Nald Offline
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NiTin Stress,

Would you please send it to me too. My ID is "ronald_gimo_06@yahoo.com"

Thanks in advance...muah!

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Nald

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#36759 - 07/09/10 02:42 AM Re: About compressor and reboiler piping stress analysis. [Re: PDSE]
rahul SRK Offline
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Hi nitin!! Pls send me the same on my E-mail Id :

rahul.j.malaviya@gmail.com

Thanks in Advance

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#36787 - 07/11/10 08:35 AM Re: About compressor and reboiler piping stress analysis. [Re: rahul SRK]
swamiji Offline
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Hi nitin!!

Pls send me the same on my E-mail Id :

stresswork@gmail.com

Thanks in Advance

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#36948 - 07/19/10 11:39 PM Re: About compressor and reboiler piping stress analysis. [Re: NiTiN Stress]
Pramod Offline
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hi Nitin,

Do send it me too plzz at vikas.naik19@gmail.com


thax in Advance .
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Mumbai

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#37042 - 07/25/10 07:38 PM Re: About compressor and reboiler piping stress analysis. [Re: PDSE]
Borzki Offline
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Hello Nitin!!

Kindly send me the file on my email:

tibor121774@yahoo.com

Thanks in Advance....

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#37048 - 07/26/10 06:13 AM Re: About compressor and reboiler piping stress analysis. [Re: Borzki]
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Registered: 03/22/10
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Hello Nitin!!

Kindly send me the file on my email:

surjeetsandhuria@gmail.com

Thanks in Advance....

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Surjeet

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#37050 - 07/26/10 09:12 AM Re: About compressor and reboiler piping stress analysis. [Re: Surjeet_Kumar]
MoverZ Offline
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Why don't you load this stuff onto 4Shared, declare it here and stop this boring list of email addresses ?

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#37063 - 07/27/10 02:48 AM Re: About compressor and reboiler piping stress analysis. [Re: MoverZ]
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Hello Nitin!!

Kindly send me the file on my email:

sumitkadam@gmail.com

Thanks in Advance....
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#37184 - 08/02/10 12:49 AM Re: About compressor and reboiler piping stress analysis. [Re: NiTiN Stress]
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Hello Nitin!!

Kindly send me the file on my email:

chowdaryam@hotmail.com

Thanks in Advance....

chowdary

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#37192 - 08/02/10 06:58 AM Re: About compressor and reboiler piping stress analysis. [Re: Chowdary]
priyan Offline
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Hai Nitin,

Please Send me my mail ID Too.

rakanandhan@live.com

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#37646 - 08/24/10 08:17 PM Re: About compressor and reboiler piping stress analysis. [Re: priyan]
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Hi pls send to my Id

suthan82@rediffmail.com

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#37656 - 08/25/10 05:12 AM Re: About compressor and reboiler piping stress analysis. [Re: Chowdary]
Farhad Offline
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Registered: 04/25/07
Posts: 133
Loc: UAE
Here is quick look to compressor analysis FYI:

1- Calculate mechanical natural frequencies of piping system.
2- Calculate acoustic natural frequencies of piping system for any anticipated gas conditions.
3- Calculate compressor harmonics (RPM/60 times N, N=1,2,3,...,10)
4- There must be 10% to 20% seperation between above frequencies.

These may eliminate resonance. But the following analysis must be done by compressor's vendor as min. requirements.

1- Above mentioned frequency calculations.
2- Pulsation analysis (API 618).
3- Harmonic shaking force analysis (by CAESAR II).

Please note that the accurate CAESAR II model must be use to calculate natural frequencies. All piping branches, steel structure pipe supports, etc. must be modeled carefully.
I've done a couple of compressor piping vibration jobs by using BOS Fluids and CAESAR II, but you should have a good experience in CAESAR II dynamic analysis as well.
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#37773 - 09/03/10 05:44 AM Re: About compressor and reboiler piping stress analysis. [Re: Farhad]
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Registered: 12/24/09
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Hello Nitin!!

Kindly send me the file on my email:

Mukhtaar.Sayed@gmail.com

Thanks in Advance....

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#37897 - 09/14/10 02:15 AM Re: About compressor and reboiler piping stress analysis. [Re: NiTiN Stress]
mkspiping Offline
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Registered: 12/24/09
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Loc: Maharashtra,India,Mumbai
Hello Nitin!!

Kindly send me the file on my email:

Mukhtaar.Sayed@gmail.com

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#37899 - 09/14/10 03:39 AM Re: About compressor and reboiler piping stress analysis. [Re: Chowdary]
caesarian Offline
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Registered: 11/10/08
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Loc: Port-Harcourt, Nigeria
Y'hello Nitin, could you please send me same document, awbarlo@yahoo.com
Thanx in anticipation..

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#38040 - 09/22/10 08:39 PM Re: About compressor and reboiler piping stress analysis. [Re: Farhad]
stress river Offline
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Registered: 01/23/06
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Loc: china
Dear Farhad:

As for the analysis you mensioned for compressor lines, canyou help give some example?

Now I encounter a big vibration trouble for the inlet of one cpmpressor.
The vibration source isn't clear except I am sure the machine vibration is acceptable.
The source may be valve , flow flush, if I want to know this source, waht should I do?

thanks very much!

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Know what you are doing!

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#38071 - 09/25/10 10:45 AM Re: About compressor and reboiler piping stress analysis. [Re: stress river]
Farhad Offline
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Registered: 04/25/07
Posts: 133
Loc: UAE
Dear friend,

Most of vibration problems are due to improper surge drum sizing. In this case shaking forces develope in piping sections and cause fatigue failure in pipe supports and pipe attachments with excess vibration.
Normally, compressor's vendor must check your piping routes and size surge drums accordingly. After a few years operation usually, pipes start vibrating due to gas property or compressor working condition changes.
At this time you should contact vendor again and they perform pulsation analysis for new operation conditions then they will give you the fix.
Or you can consult with an expert. It's not that easy to put new or reinforce pipe supports to solve this problem. You must find the origin of vibration then give a solution. Definitely, the first step is pulsation analysis.
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#38079 - 09/27/10 12:27 AM Re: About compressor and reboiler piping stress analysis. [Re: NiTiN Stress]
MOHAN Offline
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Registered: 10/12/08
Posts: 1
Loc: INDIA
Hi nitin!!

Pls send me the same on my E-mail Id :

guduri.k@gmail.com

Thanks in Advance

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#38082 - 09/27/10 03:34 AM Re: About compressor and reboiler piping stress analysis. [Re: MOHAN]
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Registered: 04/30/09
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Loc: Dorset, UK
Moderators, can you delete this post, I find that these chains of requests for documents at the least clutter the forum and may be breaching copyrights as well.

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