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#33794 - 03/21/10 11:29 PM Temperature On CAESAR
Tengku_Syahdilan Offline
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Dear Richard, Dave, and others,

I have a case where the ambient Temperature is 27 Celcius, the Design Temp. (Low) = -168 C, and Design Temp. (High) = 37.8.
what magnitude should i input in CAESAR II, coz one of my friend told me when we have this discussion that from ASME B31.3 we shall take the differential temperature or "Range Temperature" (That's my point of view from the CODE), if i follow this, off course i will set at Kaux option to set Temp. Ambient to 27 C, and then at input T1= 195 C (Range from -168 C to 27 C) and at T2= 10.8. and i think this is not right, isn't it, coz all we need that from Temperature Input, CAESAR will get the thermal expansion (from the number/magnitude that we input), so from this point of view i will take T1=-168 C and T2= 37.8 C.
Please, correct me if i'm wrong, i will si glad to hear input from you all....it is very simple problem, but i have see many engineer make wrong in this basic problem.
So please, input from you all that offcourse having many time and experience with stress analysis and CAESAR II.
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#33803 - 03/22/10 08:37 AM Re: Temperature On CAESAR [Re: Tengku_Syahdilan]
Richard Ay Offline
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No, don't do it that way.

Set ambient to 27.
Set T1 to 37.8
Set T2 to -168

Then you want load cases such as this:

1) W+T1+P1 (OPE)
2) W+T2+P1 (OPE)
3) W+P1 (SUS)
4) L1-L3 (EXP)
5) L2-L3 (EXP)
6) L1-L2 (EXP) {this will likely be the governing EXP case}
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#33834 - 03/23/10 05:52 AM Re: Temperature On CAESAR [Re: Richard Ay]
Tengku_Syahdilan Offline
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Is it ok if i make T1 = -168 C and T2 = 37.8, coz in my case we are concern for temperature -168 C (Low Design Temp.). ....
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#33840 - 03/23/10 06:57 AM Re: Temperature On CAESAR [Re: Tengku_Syahdilan]
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Sure, that is ok also.
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#33882 - 03/24/10 09:10 AM Re: Temperature On CAESAR [Re: Richard Ay]
kumar73 Offline
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BELOW LOADS U CAN USE ALSO


Set ambient to 27.
Set T1 to 37.8
Set T2 to -168


1) W+T1+P1 (OPE)
2) W+T2+P1 (OPE)
3) W+P1 (SUS)
4) L1-L3 (EXP) ALGEBRIC
5) L2-L3 (EXP) ALGEBRIC
6) L4+L5 (EXP) ABS
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