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#31199 - 11/08/09 10:51 AM storage tank allowable loads ?
kave626 Offline
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as u know we can model tanks nozzles in CAESARII by considering bulging effect and flexibility of nozzles !but what are the allowable loads for these nozzles ? as I know for small tanks it is near the allowbles for vessels but for large ones they usually say that it should be near ZERO !!! as i read API 650 APP. P , there is a good way for calculating this allowables there , but is there any way in CAESARII or Tank to check these loads ?

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#31200 - 11/08/09 12:55 PM Re: storage tank allowable loads ? [Re: kave626]
Richard Ay Offline
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API-650 offers two ways to check if a given nozzle is overloaded: Section P.2 and P.3.

CAESAR II does not provide a method to check against either of these Code Sections. TANK however does perform the check outlined in Section P.2. You need to specify the nozzle loads (that you would have from a piping analysis), then you need to go into the "Graphics Output" section of the program. It is here that TANK will plot the interaction diagrams for you. (Note, you must plot the diagrams. API-650 does not give you an "allowable nozzle load", but rather these interaction diagrams.

TANK does not yet implement Section P.3, there are still a few issues with this that the Code Committee is working out.
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#31204 - 11/09/09 01:40 AM Re: storage tank allowable loads ? [Re: Richard Ay]
amiza Offline
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Registered: 11/04/09
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Loc: Malaysia
Originally Posted By: Richard Ay
API-650 offers two ways to check if a given nozzle is overloaded: Section P.2 and P.3.

CAESAR II does not provide a method to check against either of these Code Sections. TANK however does perform the check outlined in Section P.2. You need to specify the nozzle loads (that you would have from a piping analysis), then you need to go into the "Graphics Output" section of the program. It is here that TANK will plot the interaction diagrams for you. (Note, you must plot the diagrams. API-650 does not give you an "allowable nozzle load", but rather these interaction diagrams.

tk does not yet implement Section P.3, there are still a few issues with this that the Code Committee is working out.


Mr.Richard Ay,

I want to check the nozzle stiffnesses calculation by using TANK, I have all here the information from my client, so far I dont see any problems, but do we need to input also the detail for the tank data? means that we do all the calculation from the beginning?

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AMIZA

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#31230 - 11/10/09 01:32 AM Re: storage tank allowable loads ? [Re: amiza]
Richard Ay Offline
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No, but you do need to specify the tank wall thickness, so as long as you know what this is, you don't need to do any calculations.
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