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#2592 - 03/03/05 12:28 AM Analysis of wind effect as dynamic load
ABIR Offline
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Hi,
We are analysing a piping system(20inch header at ground level with connected tanks and pumps) carrying hydrocarbon. The project is located at Vietnam seashore. Basic wind speed at site is 27m/s and we have carried out wind load in static mode with shape factor of 0.6. Our PMC, a reputed UK based company, wants us to anaysis the system considering dynamic effect of wind, they call it vortex shedding method. We don't have any idea how to do it. Please help me to find if any code or technical paper available on this.Thanks.

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#2593 - 03/03/05 10:46 AM Re: Analysis of wind effect as dynamic load
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ABIR,
There are methods to establish vortex shedding frequencies. Most often they are applied to vertical stacks, flares, columns, and towers. It is also being applied for analysis of thermowells in fluid flow that could force the resonance of the component in flow stream (ASME Power Test Code 19.3 thermowells). The 20" pipe at ground level does not fit into the same geometry.
Your 20" pipe is either on structural pipe rack or at grade on concrete 'sleepers' for support. Anything within 5 diameters of the pipe will disturb the flow such that a simple vortex shedding analysis would be diffcult to apply. Adjacent pipes and structural steel that run parallel to the 20" pipe would break up the vortex pattern into complex turbulent flow. I would think that your static analysis is the determining wind failure mode. Vortex shedding frequencies in high winds would most likely be above the piping fundamental modal frequencies. If the project managers are not convinced without analysis of piping, then it could be more direct to just add 'turbulators' to the 20" pipe in the form of small steel tabs onto the bottom of pipe. These could be compared to the helical turbulators on flares and stacks
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#2594 - 03/07/05 02:40 AM Re: Analysis of wind effect as dynamic load
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Hi ABIR,

maybe a german DIN does fulfill the requirements of your client. It's called DIN 4133 and adresses the design of steel stacks. However we are using this code sometimes to evaluate wind loads on piping for certain areas here in Europe, e.g. flat coastal areas. This code includes the first eigenvalues of the structure for the definition of an equivalent static wind load. Maybe you can order an english version on www.beuth.de.
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#2595 - 03/07/05 02:42 AM Re: Analysis of wind effect as dynamic load
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#2596 - 03/07/05 02:44 AM Re: Analysis of wind effect as dynamic load
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Hi ABIR,

maybe a german DIN does fulfill the requirements of your client. It's called DIN 4133 and adresses the design of steel stacks. However we are using this code sometimes to evaluate wind loads on piping for certain areas here in Europe, e.g. flat coastal areas. This code includes the first eigenvalues of the structure for the definition of an equivalent static wind load. Maybe you can order an english version on www.beuth.de.

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#2597 - 03/08/05 02:46 AM Re: Analysis of wind effect as dynamic load
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Thanks a lot for your reply. As per Mr Richard's advice, we are trying to convince our PMC. But if they insist, we have to go for detailed analysis. Its a flat coastal area piping, so Mr Veit's advice is very much applicable. We are trying to get a copy of DIN 4133 english version. Any other suggestion, please.
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#2598 - 03/08/05 08:45 PM Re: Analysis of wind effect as dynamic load
anindya stress Offline
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Registered: 04/12/04
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ABIR,

I can give reference of a text book on Flow Induced Vubration by Blevins.It is a classic.It has an excellent treatise on VORTEX SHEDDING.

A simplified analysis can be compute 0.18V/D and check against the system natural frequencies.

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Anindya Bhattacharya
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