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#25875 - 03/18/09 08:46 AM Simplified Expansion Stress Check
Shabeer Offline
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Hi
i refer pipe stress analysis seminar-COADE pdf. how i calculate U= straight line distance between anchors based on pg-no.2.29/102.

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#25892 - 03/18/09 10:35 PM Re: Simplified Expansion Stress Check [Re: Shabeer]
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Hope you are refering to the simplified methods of flexibility analysis. "U" normally refers to the straight line distance between two fixed points. If the pipe has a route passing through points A,B,C,D and E and say A and E has anchors. We know the co ordinates of these two points and hence the straight distance between these points can be calculated.

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#25904 - 03/19/09 11:59 AM Re: Simplified Expansion Stress Check [Re: Shiny Mathew]
Nadia Strikovski Offline
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Thanks, Mathew. This is correct.

In CAESAR II you could also use menu Edit -> Distance, then use "Nodes" option and specify both anchors node numbers. The distance will be given along with the X/Y/Z components. Distance is SRSS of 3 dimensions.

Referring to the example in the CAESAR II Seminar Notes (where the original question came): U = sqrt((11+12)^2 + (50)^2 + (45+33)^2) = 95.46.
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#25916 - 03/19/09 10:33 PM Re: Simplified Expansion Stress Check [Re: Nadia Strikovski]
Shabeer Offline
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Thanks nadia strikovski.....now i am undershoot.
In that example, the actual maximum expansion stress found in this system through an CAESAR stress Analysis -9051psi (within 1%).as per calculation we get 8903psi.

what is difference in Caser and manual calculation?
what is the meaning of within 1%?
if expansion stress above 0.03 what shall i do?


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#26027 - 03/24/09 09:38 AM Re: Simplified Expansion Stress Check [Re: Shabeer]
Dave Diehl Offline
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Read the Code. (B31.3 para. 319.4.1 & 4.2)

If you meet the requirements of that simple equation (Dy/(L-U)^2 is less than K1), then formal analysis for flexibility is not required. If Dy/(L-U)^2 is greater than K1 (or greater than 0.03 in the old Code), your pipng system requires a formal analysis.

CAESAR II is a method of formal analysis.

What is the origin of your calculated value of 8903psi?


Edited by Dave Diehl (03/24/09 09:40 AM)
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