#18081 - 05/18/08 09:21 PM
simulation of shipping saddle
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Hi,
As you know, saddle strenth checking is displayed in the report, Horizontal Vessel analysis. The term "Vertical Load on this addle"(for example the left saddle)in it include Q plus Wind or Seismic.
Without Wind, Seismic loads and Hydrotest we use saddle load Q induced by dead weight and its container and shipping weight to simulate shipping saddle in a simplified way.
Summming forces in the vertical direction, it shall be ΣFv = 0 that is Shipping Weight = Qleft+ Qright.But, acturally it doesn't match above formula with values from PV ELITE.
Any comments will be appreciated
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#18111 - 05/19/08 06:05 PM
Re: simulation of shipping saddle
[Re: Shanes Hung]
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Sorry,
There's a wrong sentence:saddle load Q induced by dead weight and its container, and it should be corrected to : saddle load Q induced by dead weight and its contents.
Any comments will be appreciated
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#18123 - 05/20/08 07:01 AM
Re: simulation of shipping saddle
[Re: Shanes Hung]
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Registered: 12/23/99
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Loc: Houston,TX,USA
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Shanes,
I cannot find the text that you are referring to. Perhaps you could cut and paste the text exactly as it is printed out for our review.
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#18393 - 05/31/08 12:49 AM
Re: simulation of shipping saddle
[Re: Shanes Hung]
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Thanks for your reply,Scott
The text is as below:
Weight Summary Fabricated Wt. - Bare Weight W/O Removable Internals 45072.1 kg. Shop Test Wt. - Fabricated Weight + Water ( Full ) 85434.8 kg. Shipping Wt. - Fab. Wt + Rem. Intls.+ Shipping App. 46147.2 kg. Erected Wt. - Fab. Wt + Rem. Intls.+ Insul. (etc) 46147.2 kg. Ope. Wt. no Liq - Fab. Wt + Intls. + Details + Wghts. 46147.2 kg. Operating Wt. - Empty Wt. + Operating Liquid (No CA) 46147.2 kg. Oper. Wt. + CA - Corr Wt. + Operating Liquid 44285.8 kg. Field Test Wt. - Empty Weight + Water (Full) 84850.0 kg.
Zick Analysis: Stresses for the Left Saddle
Load Combination Results for Q + Wind or Seismic [Q]: = Saddle Load + Max( Fwl, Fwt, Fsl, Fst ) = 17143 + Max( 0 , 0 , 0 , 0 ) = 17143.3 Kgf Summary of Loads on this Saddle Support: Vertical Load on this Saddle 17143.30 Kgf Transverse Shear Load on this Saddle 0.00 Kgf Longitudinal Shear Load on this Saddle 0.00 Kgf
Zick Analysis: Stresses for the Right Saddle
Load Combination Results for Q + Wind or Seismic [Q]: = Saddle Load + Max( Fwl, Fwt, Fsl, Fst ) = 24925 + Max( 0 , 0 , 0 , 0 ) = 24925.4 Kgf Summary of Loads on this Saddle Support: Vertical Load on this Saddle 24925.42 Kgf Transverse Shear Load on this Saddle 0.00 Kgf Longitudinal Shear Load on this Saddle 0.00 Kgf
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#18410 - 06/02/08 06:55 AM
Re: simulation of shipping saddle
[Re: Shanes Hung]
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Hi Shanes,
By default, PV Elite uses the corroded weight to compute the weight load on the saddle supports. Also realize that the weight that is acting downward on the saddles should not include the weight of the saddles themselves. So, once these items are accounted for, you should be able to get the numbers to work out.
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