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#18236 - 05/23/08 01:14 PM Y-branch
david.zhu Offline
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Could you tell me how to model Y-branch as attached.

Thanks in advance.

David


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#18239 - 05/23/08 11:01 PM Re: Y-branch [Re: david.zhu]
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Hi david,

In my experience, model three segment in one intersection and input your SIF value.

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#18243 - 05/25/08 07:21 PM Re: Y-branch [Re: Serzed]
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...and input wall thickness for the Y-piece connector & also type of connection in SIF/Tee type in Caesar II.




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#18249 - 05/26/08 05:16 AM Re: Y-branch [Re: Omdo]
david.zhu Offline
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Thanks.

But how to calculate the SIF value?

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#18250 - 05/26/08 06:15 AM Re: Y-branch [Re: david.zhu]
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You can use the search engine of this furom to look for SIF and find some good books given from our elder's grin...

But for some reason Y-branch is just one problem that special software will be use..

Regards,.
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#18255 - 05/26/08 09:06 AM Re: Y-branch [Re: Serzed]
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David,

You're outside the scope of the B31 Codes, they don't address this fitting. You have two options to approach this accurately:

1) Ask the vendor for the SIFs, or
2) Use specialized software and perform a finite element analysis to analytically determine the SIFs.


There is a 3rd option, change the piping system and avoid using this fitting...
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#18276 - 05/27/08 05:49 AM Re: Y-branch [Re: Richard Ay]
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Richard,

Thank you for your reply.

This is nuclear class 1 pipe. The available code is ASME III NB.

This is a small project. We have no budget to trace vendor or to calculate SIFs.

As your experience, how much the SIF is (conservatively) ?

Regards,

David

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#18281 - 05/27/08 07:09 AM Re: Y-branch [Re: david.zhu]
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No budget for what are clearly essential calculations ....... Class 1 nuclear ........ Does that make sense ? What kind of project is this ?

Don't rely on the opinion of contributors to this forum to provide non-code SIF's, that data will not stand up in a fatal accident enquiry.

Get onto PRG (FE-Pipe)or other FE code supplier, otherwise this might be a project you will be scrubbing from your CV, one day in the future.

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#18282 - 05/27/08 07:14 AM Re: Y-branch [Re: david.zhu]
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Quote:
As your experience, how much the SIF is (conservatively) ?


There is no Code fitting applicable to your situation. So using anything from the Code might be miles off base. I can't provide any numbers here.
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