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#12190 - 07/14/07 09:37 AM Allowable velocity
Balu Offline
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What is the allowable velocity for the superheated steam. As per our standard it should to be within 60m/s. But in one project, the existing header is designed for only 570TPH, but the client requirement for the present one should be 660 TPH..due to the increase in flow rate, the existing header vecity goes up to 65 m/s...but the pressure drop is within allowable..is it acceptable 65 m/s...what r the significance....if the velocity goes high.other than pressure drop ?


Edited by Balu (07/14/07 09:39 AM)

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#12193 - 07/15/07 09:08 AM Re: Allowable velocity [Re: Balu]
John C. Luf Offline
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This is not a code question or a structural analysis question. Your question is better placed on another forum such as www.pipingdesign.com or http://www.eng-tips.com/
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#12195 - 07/15/07 09:30 AM Re: Allowable velocity [Re: John C. Luf]
Balu Offline
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Mr.John..do u know the answer or not? if u dont like to reply..pls..shut



Edited by Balu (07/15/07 09:32 AM)

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#12199 - 07/16/07 06:13 AM Re: Allowable velocity [Re: Balu]
sn_idea Offline
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Balu

Can you explain how your question is relevant to CAESAR discussion forum ?

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#12201 - 07/16/07 07:18 AM Re: Allowable velocity [Re: sn_idea]
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Balu,

It is very rude to ask for advice and, when you don't like it, tell the advisor to shut up. An apology would be in order.
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#12204 - 07/16/07 08:39 AM Re: Allowable velocity [Re: CraigB]
Jouko Offline
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I would say also: Wrong forum, John tries to help and gets blasted. Not nice.

Partial answer for MS:
100 m/s max for occasional/temporary duty
50 to 70 m/s max for constant duty
under 50 m/s recommended

Other duties have different speeds.

P.S. Could somebody post the address again in this thread for How to post and how to behave. And send it also as priv message to correct person.
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#12206 - 07/16/07 08:53 AM Re: Allowable velocity [Re: Jouko]
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Do not be concerned for my sake... His comment speaks eloquently on his own up bringing, and cultural value(s). I still think he would have greater success getting his nebulous question answered in those other forums but if he wants to fish in a lake that has few fish in it so be it.

The question is nebulous because different companies have different standards on V as well as Industry practice. The question reminds me of "What is the best (Tea,Coffee, Bier.... etc.)" Or athe evr popular what coefficient should Mu be?

We all know as V goes up the possibility of flow induced vibration increases , but there is no single magic number that fits all occasions, only a person lacking knowledge on the subject would ask what is the single magic number?

I hope he finds success in his quest for the magic number, perhaps he will also come across the lost ark of the covenant, the holy grail or the magic touchstone that converts lead to gold!
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#12207 - 07/16/07 09:10 AM Re: Allowable velocity [Re: John C. Luf]
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Well said Gents.

ps, the best beer is Ruddles County.

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#12208 - 07/16/07 09:21 AM Re: Allowable velocity [Re: MoverZ]
John C. Luf Offline
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Maybe but really the best Bier is the one you have at hand when you have a thirst assuming of course its not been spoilt.
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#12232 - 07/18/07 02:07 PM Re: Allowable velocity [Re: John C. Luf]
Darren_Yin Offline
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The affront against Mr. Luf is beyond the pale. No one is an island; alas, we all have been insulted by this.

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#12255 - 07/19/07 01:48 PM Re: Allowable velocity [Re: Darren_Yin]
anindya stress Offline
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We are extremely fortunate that we get advise from persons like John Luf in this forum. People like Balu do not know whom they are insulting. Also Balu should realize that he gets answers and advises free of cost in this forum that too from Industry experts.He should first remember a saying in his own language( I am referring to Sanskrit) that to learn you need to have humility, a lesson I belive he has either not learnt or has forgotten.I pity him.

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#12258 - 07/19/07 11:14 PM Re: Allowable velocity [Re: anindya stress]
NEELAM RAJA Offline
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As Anindya said, before you learn you need patience, humility. After you learn also you need patience,humility. It is unfortunate that people with Knowledge and experience levels of Mr Luf have been inappropriately addressed.

Ego neither helps in your pipe stressing jobs nor in your daily life. Afterall you have to work with people of different attitudes till you retire. Companies would have bought encylcopedias and not people,had it been just knowledge.

Balu...I sincerely request you to apologise to Mr Luf for that language.

Cheers........
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