Support for Heavy Valve

Posted by: Farhad

Support for Heavy Valve - 05/08/07 05:27 AM

How can you model a "Y" support at center of a 56" gate valve weighs 17,000Kg?
Posted by: MoverZ

Re: Support for Heavy Valve - 05/08/07 05:48 AM

Model the valve as two rigid bodies adjacent to one another with half the mass each, then place a Y restraint at the centre node.
Posted by: Farhad

Re: Support for Heavy Valve - 05/08/07 06:06 AM

So, you make a pivot at support node and you'll find unwanted relative rotations and displacements at the both ends. Then you'll end up inaccurate results.
Posted by: anindya stress

Re: Support for Heavy Valve - 05/08/07 07:32 AM

Farhad,

Try to understand the :

1) Physics of the problem.

2) Representation of the problem in a beam element based FEM model,including the modelling of a 3D support as a knife edgesupport.

If you have understood the above two points, you will understand MoverZ's response.

Best Regards

Posted by: Loren Brown

Re: Support for Heavy Valve - 05/08/07 12:51 PM

A 17,000 Kg valve, supported by a +Y at the center will not pivot. The only pivoting would be due to adjacent pipe elements where the weight distribution on either side of the valve is not symmetrical. You can always put an additional node in your valve so you have 3 consecutive rigids, with one short rigid equal to the finite length of your real-world Y support in the middle. Then place your 2 Y supports on those two center nodes, each representing one end of the Y support. I think this is over-kill, but it can be done quite easily.