How to handle 31.3 longitudinal joint efficiency in CII?

Good evening! Greetings from central California. I am brand new here, so thanks very much for admitting me to the forum. I see some familiar names on the forum here from other places around the web. Hopefully I'll be able to contribute from time to time without embarrassing myself...

In the meantime, I have a question. I am confused as to how to properly handle the longitudinal weld seam joint efficiency in CAESAR. I have a model with 42" spiral-welded pipe, made from 0.394" A36 plate. The B31.3 joint efficiency for this pipe is E=0.85 from Table 302.3.4. Also, no efficiency is listed for this material in Table A.1B.

Where do I input the 0.85 in the spreadsheet? The online Help tells me NOT to input a value for E in the Eff box. Also, do I need to check the Seam Welded check box, or not?

Thanks guys!

Weld joint efficiency (Eff) reflects the certainty of burst strength. Seamless pipe has an Eff of 1.0, a longitudinal seam drops that value to numbers like your 0.85. If you do full radiography of the joint, Eff can get back up to 1.0. See how Eff (E) is used in the wall thickness calculation. A lower Eff gives a thicker wall.

Here's the help from C2:

B31.3, B31.4, B31.8, B31.11, NAVY 505, Z662 (J), BS 806 (e), CODETI (z), FDBR (vl), GPTC/192. Allowable stress (or yield stress) tables do not include Longitudinal Weld Joint Efficiencies, Eff will be ignored for the flexibility calculations. SH will be multiplied by Eff when calculating the minimum wall thickness.

So I would say enter Eff=0.85. You should see no change in allowable stress calculations but you should see a higher tmin listed in the Miscellaneous Output report and perhaps a warning from C2 if your entered thickness (adjusted by mill tolerance) is too low.

Eff is not a material parameter so it should not appear in teh material data - it a fabrication parameter.

Regarding the Weld Joint Strength Reduction Factor - that's for reducing the strength of weld materials in the creep range. Don't worry about it if your temperatures are not "up there". If you are very hot, then perhaps you should worry about both the circumferential AND longitudinal entries in C2 - circ. is defined through SIF's & Tees and long. is defined below OD & wt through the Seam Welded check box.

Thanks Dave. That's what I'll do. I thought that was the correct place for E. I am nowhere near the creep range for this system (only 160 F).