Posted by: SND
Friction effect on SUS stress - 08/05/13 05:43 AM
Dear Friends,
Dear Richard, I tried to search this topic,but not the same doubts what we face,So,request to provide your valuable result.
While compressor nozzle analysis,I noticed following,I need your help to clear my doubts.Please express your thoughts,
1) As vibration analysis & as per vendor suggestion, design gr. providing special supports like clamp support,we are not modeling in CAESAR these clamp supports,If I need to model clamp in CAESAR, need to model as X,Y,Z with friction factor Mu=0.3,that will generate huge load, as we can not put clamp in Teflon / graphite pad. How to consider in three direction Friction for clamp support?
2) After changing the friction factor Mu=0.1 in vertical +Y, SUS stress is nothing going to affect,however Expansion stresses are reduced.
Question is if Pipe rest on civil beam with clamp than it;s weight,fluid weight,insulation all are taking by the support i.e called Sustained load, than why it is not help to reduce the SUSTAINED load/stress both?
3)If the friction force is less than Mu*Fy, there shall not be displacement at that node,still we can see displacement in the restraint summary due to the stiffness used in CAESAR configure set up.
My knowledge says that this force shall be ""stiffness * Displacement""" only, which is called "non-sliding".
But,I calculated manually, that force is not matching with CAESAR output.So, how CAESAR is working for such cases.
I wish to get clear my questions & hope to have answers from all of experts here.
Thanks in advance.
Dear Richard, I tried to search this topic,but not the same doubts what we face,So,request to provide your valuable result.
While compressor nozzle analysis,I noticed following,I need your help to clear my doubts.Please express your thoughts,
1) As vibration analysis & as per vendor suggestion, design gr. providing special supports like clamp support,we are not modeling in CAESAR these clamp supports,If I need to model clamp in CAESAR, need to model as X,Y,Z with friction factor Mu=0.3,that will generate huge load, as we can not put clamp in Teflon / graphite pad. How to consider in three direction Friction for clamp support?
2) After changing the friction factor Mu=0.1 in vertical +Y, SUS stress is nothing going to affect,however Expansion stresses are reduced.
Question is if Pipe rest on civil beam with clamp than it;s weight,fluid weight,insulation all are taking by the support i.e called Sustained load, than why it is not help to reduce the SUSTAINED load/stress both?
3)If the friction force is less than Mu*Fy, there shall not be displacement at that node,still we can see displacement in the restraint summary due to the stiffness used in CAESAR configure set up.
My knowledge says that this force shall be ""stiffness * Displacement""" only, which is called "non-sliding".
But,I calculated manually, that force is not matching with CAESAR output.So, how CAESAR is working for such cases.
I wish to get clear my questions & hope to have answers from all of experts here.
Thanks in advance.