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#71748 - 05/24/18 11:09 AM Weld Symbology: CADWorx or ISOGEN
NAndrews Offline
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Registered: 09/28/14
Posts: 21
Loc: Montana
All,

I need help with an odd behavior that is occurring between CADWorx and ISOGEN. For reference, I am using CADWorx 2016 on an AutoCAD 2016 build. We are still using Project Manager for ISOGEN switch control, but with an update to iConfigure pending.

I am trying to clean up our weld symbols for our office. Our standard is to show a field weld as a filled dot with four lines (starting SKEY: WS) and a fit-up weld as an open dot with four lines (starting SKEY: WSD). I have also setup option switch 22 in the OPL to give a set overage on FFW welds. Both welds are set as an "Erection" BOM type for control of spool marks. The end goal is to have the correct open symbol with the overage added to the BOM on the iso.

The issue is on extracting an isometric. If the BOM type on the FFW weld is set to "Erection" or "Misc", the open dot of the weld symbol (SKEY: WSD) is filled in solid. If the BOM type is left on "Fabrication", the SKEY/symbol is correct. I have tried different weld symbols (WF and WFD), but I am getting the same result. I have also tried creating a new SKEY based on WSD with solid lines, but an open dot and I am getting the same results.

Does anyone have any suggestions on this behavior? Is this something in CADWorx? Is it a setting within ISOGEN?

TL;DR: ISOGEN is making weld dots solid on all "Erection" and "Misc" bom types, regardless of weld SKEY. Is there a way to change or prevent this behavior?

Thanks for you time,
Nick

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#71749 - 05/24/18 01:05 PM Re: Weld Symbology: CADWorx or ISOGEN [Re: NAndrews]
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What does the PCF file look like? Is it generating the correct SKEYs for your welds?
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#71751 - 05/24/18 02:06 PM Re: Weld Symbology: CADWorx or ISOGEN [Re: dgorsman]
NAndrews Offline
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Registered: 09/28/14
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Loc: Montana
I did not think to look a PCF; thanks for the tip.

No, the PCF does not show the correct SKEY. The welds change based on the BOM type. The first weld on this list should be custom SKEY WWP, but it is set to "MISC" BOM type. The PCF shows and SKEY of WF instead. The second weld on the list is also using the custom SKEY of WWP, but set to "ERECTION"; the SKEY is now set to WS. The third weld uses the same WWP SKEY, but set to "FABRICATION" BOM type; the SKEY is as-set in the model:

PIPE
END-POINT 120.2722 20.7175 0.0000 4.0000 BW
END-POINT 153.3888 20.7175 0.0000 4.0000
UNIQUE-COMPONENT-IDENTIFIER 02BCC894-C6AE-45FE-88F5-77D538CC2E91
FABRICATION-ITEM
ITEM-CODE 1
WEIGHT 10.790000
COMPONENT-ATTRIBUTE2 PIPE
PIPING-SPEC HBD
COMPONENT-ATTRIBUTE1 HBD

WELD
END-POINT 120.2722 20.7175 0.0000 4.0000
END-POINT 120.2722 20.7175 0.0000 4.0000
MESSAGE
TEXT MISC
UNIQUE-COMPONENT-IDENTIFIER F9D37DAD-33E6-4A82-AA40-6E10EA9C47C2
SKEY WF
FABRICATION-ITEM
WEIGHT 1.000000
TAG F.U.
WELD-ATTRIBUTE3 F.U.
WELD-ATTRIBUTE2 WELD GAP
PIPING-SPEC HBD
WELD-ATTRIBUTE1 HBD

PIPE
END-POINT 108.2722 20.7175 0.0000 4.0000 BW
END-POINT 120.2722 20.7175 0.0000 4.0000
UNIQUE-COMPONENT-IDENTIFIER F3902F37-5EEC-479A-BD0E-5C01B1CB4B93
FABRICATION-ITEM
ITEM-CODE 1
WEIGHT 10.790000
COMPONENT-ATTRIBUTE2 PIPE
PIPING-SPEC HBD
COMPONENT-ATTRIBUTE1 HBD

WELD
END-POINT 108.2722 20.7175 0.0000 4.0000
END-POINT 108.2722 20.7175 0.0000 4.0000
MESSAGE
TEXT ERECTION
UNIQUE-COMPONENT-IDENTIFIER 0CAB3A83-D62A-4EB0-ABE8-F9DF90B60FAA
SKEY WS
ERECTION-ITEM
WEIGHT 1.000000
TAG F.U.
WELD-ATTRIBUTE3 F.U.
WELD-ATTRIBUTE2 WELD GAP
PIPING-SPEC HBD
WELD-ATTRIBUTE1 HBD

PIPE
END-POINT 96.2722 20.7175 0.0000 4.0000 BW
END-POINT 108.2722 20.7175 0.0000 4.0000
UNIQUE-COMPONENT-IDENTIFIER 521A3E5D-DB80-48A0-8600-8CBB015D41E1
FABRICATION-ITEM
ITEM-CODE 1
WEIGHT 10.790000
COMPONENT-ATTRIBUTE2 PIPE
PIPING-SPEC HBD
COMPONENT-ATTRIBUTE1 HBD

WELD
END-POINT 96.2722 20.7175 0.0000 4.0000
END-POINT 96.2722 20.7175 0.0000 4.0000
MESSAGE
TEXT FABRICATION
UNIQUE-COMPONENT-IDENTIFIER A115C3A7-6D09-4FB4-9365-39AB91BC7557
SKEY WWP
FABRICATION-ITEM
WEIGHT 1.000000
TAG F.U.
WELD-ATTRIBUTE3 F.U.
WELD-ATTRIBUTE2 WELD GAP
PIPING-SPEC HBD
WELD-ATTRIBUTE1 HBD

Is there a setting that controls this behavior?

Thanks again.


Edited by NAndrews (05/24/18 02:08 PM)

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#71757 - 05/30/18 08:09 AM Re: Weld Symbology: CADWorx or ISOGEN [Re: NAndrews]
dgorsman Offline
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Registered: 02/28/06
Posts: 1646
Not that I know of, as far as I can tell the weld SKEYs ignore the ISOGEN override. Put in a support request, they may consider this a bug.
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