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#43123 - 06/01/11 01:02 AM Flange analysis; ASME method
pooria1978 Offline
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currently, I am working on a 150lb piping system with internal pressure of 12 bars. I check the flange connections in equivalnet pressure method and all are ok except one so I check it in CII feature "flnage" I am pretty sure that all data about the dimensions and materials of bolt and gasket are correctly entered. what surprises me is that with even an internal pressure of 1 bar and no external load, this flange connection goes bust! gasket is a spiral wound gasket with thickoness of 4.5mm the material group of the flange is 1.1
the problem is that the maximum average and longitudinal hub are too much.
I wonder if anyone could give some advice in this regard.
thanks

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#43125 - 06/01/11 01:45 AM Re: Flange analysis; ASME method [Re: pooria1978]
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I suspect that the flange has failed on atmospheric conditions rather than operating conditions. If this is the case, it's due to an incompatability between the ASME VIII DIv 1 App 2 method (Taylor Forge) and the flange / gasket geometry and gasket properties (m and y factors). There is little you can do about it. This commonly occurs with 150 and 300# flanges where sprial wound gaskets are employed. There are thousands of similar joints out there, functioning perfectly well.

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#43126 - 06/01/11 02:11 AM Re: Flange analysis; ASME method [Re: pooria1978]
pooria1978 Offline
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MoverZ,
you are right; the "seating" condition is not ok and it is because of m and y factors. should I struggle to change the gasket for this specific connection?

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#43127 - 06/01/11 03:06 AM Re: Flange analysis; ASME method [Re: pooria1978]
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As MoverZ said, there is no need to worry. We are performing the check under external loads and not the design of a B16.5 flange.

However, many gasket vendors offer now Spiral wound gaskets with Y = 5000psi.

Example:

http://www.keithpayneproducts.com/asme.htm

Regards,
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Dan

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