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#6673 - 10/03/06 09:56 AM Reversing of Nodes and Material Input
Pickles Offline
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Registered: 09/25/06
Posts: 52
Loc: Australia
G'day everybody,
Just imported a pcf file into Caesar2 and realised that the node increments are opposite to the flow of the fluid. Does this matter? If so, what would be an easier way of batch re-numberins as opposed to clicking and changing each node number one by one?
Also when defining a different material for an element, the "allowable stress" box gets checked but when running the error checker it comes out with a warning saying that this shouldn't be checked. Any idea why this occurs? Lastly, just having a debate with a fellow engineer, He claims that it is not necessary to define the material of fittings that differs to the pipe. I actually define a node per fitting end and define this. For example, an elbow made out of A234 followed by a pipe fabricated from A106B then buttwelded unto an A105 flange. Any thoughts on this would be much appreciated. Thanking you all in advance!
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#6674 - 10/03/06 10:31 AM Re: Reversing of Nodes and Material Input
CraigB Offline
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Registered: 05/16/06
Posts: 378
Loc: Denver, CO
It doesn't matter whether your node numbers are in the direction of flow. All the temperatures, etc. are usually assumed to be the same throughout the model.

If you want to renumber your model, open up the detailed spreadsheet by clicking the icon on the lower left, go to the elements page, highlight the rows that include the nodes you want to renumber, and then there's an icon on the right edge that starts the renumber dialog. You will have to go back through it to fix little things (sometimes restraint node numbers don't get changed, for example).

All of A234, A106B, and A105 have essentially (key word) the same properties, since they're all carbon steel. If I were doing analysis for a nuke, I would probably go to this much trouble, but for the real world this is generally not worth the bother. I doubt that it would change anything by more than a small fraction of one percent; the calculation methods aren't that good!

It's often a good idea to isolate fittings from pipe as you suggest, since in many systems different wall thicknesses are called out for fittings than for pipe. It also helps with keeping track of element boundaries so you can put supports far enough from weld lines.

Also, I am not sure, but I don't think the dimensional tolerances on fittings are the same as on the pipe. (Another one of those things not worth worrying about except in nuke-land.)
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