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#6394 - 08/22/06 06:25 PM Seismic Static G
Paul B Offline
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Registered: 01/23/03
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For the first time I am having to come up with equivalent horizontal & vertical acceleration for use with a static model.

The client has quoted UBC-97 zone 2A.
I do not have the above & also B31.3 now only quotes ASCE-7.

Having started to look thru' ASCE-7 I am left wondering which value to use for my accelerations, a) seismic base shear (12.8-1) which would appear to be for static G procedures or

b) seismic design force (13.3-1) which would appear to be for pipe design but I am not sure whether it is applicable to static G analysis.

Vertical accel. from a previous job was taken as 2/3 hor. accel. but i can't find anything to justify this - any ideas?

My other query is whether there is a way to convert the clients UBC figure to ASCE-7 Ss & S1.
I have found a figure for Ss & S1 off the internet (not USA) but would like to tie this back to clients figure if possible.
I have looked at TI809-4 but it doesn't seem to work properly with my adobe reader

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#6395 - 08/23/06 07:33 AM Re: Seismic Static G
Dave Diehl Offline
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Here's a current link to TI-809-04. Check Chapter 3 for a method of converting UBC-91 to ASCE-style parameters (Ss & S1).

http://www.hnd.usace.army.mil/techinfo/ti/809-04/ti80904.htm

ASME B31.3 - 2004 Edition Errata includes the reference to UBC. The removal of UBC from the seismic reference should be in effect for the 2006 Edition.
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#6396 - 08/23/06 09:02 AM Re: Seismic Static G
Paul B Offline
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Registered: 01/23/03
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I had already tried that document, Their must be something wrong with my acrobat reader as all I get on the important page 3-12 is equation (3-23)
where

the rest is blank upto page 3-13 Ss & S1 figures for rest of world.

Thanks for the comment about the errata I had missed the fact that ASME had decided to go back to using either code.

When are we likely to see B31s?

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#6397 - 08/23/06 10:08 AM Re: Seismic Static G
Dave Diehl Offline
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Registered: 12/14/99
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My view of that pdf is kind of busted too but I believe all the information is there.

I understand that the "final" version of B31S will be reviewed at the B31 Mechanical Design Committee meeting next month in Atlanta. There is still an issue regarding allowable stress values.

I cannot predict when it will be issued.
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