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#5161 - 03/16/06 06:38 AM THRUST FORCE ON BEND
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Hai everybody,
Can any body tell briefly about how to calculate the resulting force on a thrust block due to fluid velocity and pressure in a bend . is it true that caesar will not calculate thrust forces due to velocity.
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#5162 - 03/16/06 07:48 AM Re: THRUST FORCE ON BEND
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Originally posted by naveenleo:
Hai everybody,
Can any body tell briefly about how to calculate the ***RESULTING*** force on a thrust block due to fluid velocity and pressure in a bend . is it true that caesar will not calculate thrust forces due to velocity.
Statically balanced (usually)assuming opposing bend
otherwise if pipe is open onded....

P=f/a ????
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#5163 - 03/16/06 10:50 PM Re: THRUST FORCE ON BEND
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#5164 - 03/18/06 11:53 AM Re: THRUST FORCE ON BEND
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Your question is incomplete!!!! If your system is welded or continously connected piping the PXA load is carried internally by the pipe wall.

But if you have a push on joint then the thrust block reference is appropriate.. So expound on your question or thrust block everything, I'll be glad to fix it for a fee afterwards!

Although Superpiper will probably get the work!
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#5165 - 03/19/06 10:10 PM Re: THRUST FORCE ON BEND
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Hello Mr.LUF ,
it is not a closed loop,but open to atm.what i found for it is,
The resulting force on a thrust block due to fluid velocity and pressure in a bend

can be expressed as
F = 2 A (ρv2/g + p) cos(θ/2) (1)
where
F = resulting force acting on the pipe bend (N, lb)
A = area of pipe (m2, ft2)
ρ = density of the fluid (kg/m3, lb/ft3)
v = velocity of the fluid (m/s, ft/s)
g = acceleration due to gravity (9.81 m/s2, 32.2 ft/s2)
p = pressure in pipe (kPa, lb/ft2)
θ = angle between pipes - bend angle
The angle the resulting force F makes upstream line of the bend can be expressed as
α = θ/2 (2)
where
α = angle the resulting force makes with the incoming pipe to the bend
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#5166 - 03/19/06 10:42 PM Re: THRUST FORCE ON BEND
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Dear naveenleo,

For the open end I understand the presence of velocity term; but, otherwise with a slip joint of non-welded elbow, will we reqire a velocity term ? Please check.

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sam
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#5167 - 03/19/06 11:44 PM Re: THRUST FORCE ON BEND
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hello sam,
what u said is correct , there is no need of vel term with slip joints, but they are mostly avoided for the application were sealing is preffered.
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#5168 - 03/20/06 01:39 AM Re: THRUST FORCE ON BEND
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I thought he was refering to a thrust block commonly found on the elbow of large relief discharge pipework, or loops.

Obviously completely wrong.

I'll just go an give myself a good beating....................
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