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#68308 - 02/13/17 03:40 AM Total Thermal Expansion calc. in CAESAR II
Paek/Seungmin Offline
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Dear All

I checked total thermal expansion lenght at same time as changing the ambinet & operating temperature. but but difference of themperature(delta T, 100C)is same

and I found some total thermal expansion lengths were little different.

Material : A53 Grade B, 50m length

case1 : amb. Temp 20C and Oper. Temp 120C, thermal expansion : 61.119mm
case2 : amb. Temp 40C and Oper. Temp 140C, thermal expansion : 62.469mm
case3 : amb. Temp 60C and Oper. Temp 160C, thermal expansion : 63.779mm

Pleae let me know if you know what these differences originated.

Thanks & Regards

Tim Paek


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#68309 - 02/13/17 08:41 AM Re: Total Thermal Expansion calc. in CAESAR II [Re: Paek/Seungmin]
Dave Diehl Offline
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The rate of expansion changes with temperature.
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#68311 - 02/13/17 10:34 AM Re: Total Thermal Expansion calc. in CAESAR II [Re: Paek/Seungmin]
Faizal K Offline
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Registered: 07/21/08
Posts: 159
Loc: USA/Malaysia
Yes, the RATE changes. Try it for yourself. Go to table C-1 of B31.3 for example, copy the data for Group 1 material into Excel and plot the graph. You'll see that the relationship between temperature and thermal expansion is not exactly linear.

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#68321 - 02/14/17 08:31 AM Re: Total Thermal Expansion calc. in CAESAR II [Re: Paek/Seungmin]
Michael_Fletcher Offline
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Registered: 01/29/10
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Loc: Louisiana, US
Does anyone know offhand whether the published values are averaged relative to standard ambient conditions, or if the rates are instantaneous?

I.E. If I have a material at 1000°, and rates are provided in ~100° increments, ought I calculate length increases from ambient-100, 100-200, 300-400, 500-600, 700-800, 900-1000 to calculate a total length grown, and then back out an average coefficient of thermal expansion should I want to simply calculate ambient-1000°?

In most cases, I suspect it doesn't matter. In cases where you have dissimilar materials welded together, it makes a big difference.

Thanks.

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