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#66839 - 07/20/16 05:43 AM fatigue analysis for an induced displacement
pooria1978 Offline
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I am currently working on a piping system running through a pipe bridge linking two platforms. to be able to asses the fatigue, I calculated the cycle numbers and of course, I have applied the platform displacements on proper spots of the piping.
I would like to know which one of the following is the correct way of fatigue analysis for this situation:

1- making a (EXP) stress case and incorporate the stress reduction factor as per the code graph (fig. 302.3.5 in B31.3)

L1: W+P+T+D
L2: W+P
L3: L1-L2 (EXP) (modified stress reduction factor)

2- making a (FAT) case and using a proper fatigue curve

L1: W+P+T+D
L2: W+P+T
L3: L1-L2 (FAT)

thanks in advance

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#66872 - 07/22/16 10:01 PM Re: fatigue analysis for an induced displacement [Re: pooria1978]
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I would figure both may be appropriate with #2 considered as "more rigorous analysis". But what will be your allowable stress for #2? Do you intend to use the criteria in ASME VIII-2?
I believe #1 should be fine but what do you mean by "modified" f? Is this the cycle adjustment for combining two or more cycle sets? (different cycles for T and cycles for D) If so, you would first have to run EXP for T and then EXP for D to find the controlling value and then determine the equivalent cycles to set the allowable for the higher calculated stress. - This can get complicated real fast.
If you can pass the total EXP (T+D) using the largest cycle set (D?), perhaps you can justify safe operation.
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#66878 - 07/24/16 01:26 AM Re: fatigue analysis for an induced displacement [Re: pooria1978]
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what about wave data with number cycle
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#66883 - 07/24/16 09:00 PM Re: fatigue analysis for an induced displacement [Re: pooria1978]
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You can evaluate fatigue by using equation (1d) in B31.3. That will be a lot of work if the highest stress at each node can be caused by either T or D.
A nice trick in CAESAR II is to build a fatigue curve based on (1a) and let the CAESAR II fatigue processor run its cumulative damage check. This will give the results expected in (1d).
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#66898 - 07/26/16 09:37 AM Re: fatigue analysis for an induced displacement [Re: pooria1978]
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Hi Dave,

What you point out in your second post starts to look a whole lot like a proper ASME VIII-2 check... Except your still checking with B31.3 allowables. When would one consider switching to ASME VIII-2 fatigue curve for these type of fatigue analyses?

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#66904 - 07/27/16 12:44 AM Re: fatigue analysis for an induced displacement [Re: pooria1978]
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ASME VIII-2 would be considered '"more rigorous analysis". See B31.3 paragraph 300(c)(3). But such use must be accepted by the owner.
Because of the added work, I believe this would be practical only for specific components in your piping system.
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