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#31690 - 11/30/09 07:39 AM Applied Displacement
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If I apply a displacement to a node, is there any way to find out what load is being applied to the model to achieve this displacement?

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#31691 - 11/30/09 08:34 AM Re: Applied Displacement [Re: rogerteagle]
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Sure.
Give a Force (iterativ) at this node.
Look the result displacement on this node.
If the result displacement equal you input displacement, then you have the right force.

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#31694 - 11/30/09 08:48 AM Re: Applied Displacement [Re: Ohliger]
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... and start with the reaction force you obtained at the location of the displacement.
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#31696 - 11/30/09 08:56 AM Re: Applied Displacement [Re: Richard Ay]
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There is no reaction force at the node. I checked the 'restraints extended' ouput and there is a displacement reaction at the node, but no forces only bending moment. There is no restraint on the node that the displacment is applied to.

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#31697 - 11/30/09 09:01 AM Re: Applied Displacement [Re: rogerteagle]
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Check the FY reaction at node 40 in this model.


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909-JUNK5.C2 (361 downloads)

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#31699 - 11/30/09 09:50 AM Re: Applied Displacement [Re: Richard Ay]
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Reaction force is not the right word.
Reaction moments and force becomes only on this nodes you have a restraint.
But you become element force and moments (inner values).
Richard mean.. check the element force at the same coordinate as your displacement are.


Edited by Ohliger (11/30/09 09:52 AM)

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#31725 - 12/01/09 02:39 AM Re: Applied Displacement [Re: Ohliger]
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I cannot download the file, it takes me to 'page cannot be found'. I will investigate element forces further and try an iterative approach...

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#31731 - 12/01/09 08:22 AM Re: Applied Displacement [Re: rogerteagle]
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Just build a cantilever model. At the free end displace it down 1 inch. Observe the magnitude of the "displacement reaction" in the restraint report.

Go back to the model, remove the displacement and apply the observed reaction as a force at the free end.
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#31732 - 12/01/09 08:37 AM Re: Applied Displacement [Re: Richard Ay]
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Ok, I'll give that a try. Its a rotational displacement that I am applying, to investigate the effect of misalignment of 5degrees on a flange.

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#31779 - 12/02/09 06:55 PM Re: Applied Displacement [Re: rogerteagle]
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Roger
the applied load at a point displacement / rotation acts only on the degrees of freedom restrained, ie. a rotation is imposed by a moment. But this also causes displacement (check your output), so to keep the flange in position a displacement fixity is also required.
This sort of analysis starts to get tricky if you want to see what happens when the pipe is operating.. 5 degrees is a big rotation btw.

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