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#56099 - 09/09/13 02:10 AM GRP piping
pooria1978 Offline
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I have done quite a handful GRP stress calculations so far in my career, just recently I ran into one sample calculation based on ISO 14692 in which, it was suggested to do extra stress check for Bends/Tees. I wonder if any one could clarify.

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#56111 - 09/09/13 02:26 PM Re: GRP piping [Re: pooria1978]
Farhad Offline
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Dear Pooria,

Generally, critical items should be considered in design of GRP joints adjacent to bends/tees:

1- GRP bends are far more stiffer than steel bends (typ. Kgrp=5*Ksteel)
2- Limited contribution of bends in absorbtion of expansion
3- Highest Stresses near Bends and (Tees) (typically)
4- Prediction of flexibilities
5- most of the failures accure at joints

I hope it helps.


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#56119 - 09/10/13 05:28 AM Re: GRP piping [Re: pooria1978]
pooria1978 Offline
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Dear Farhad,

thanks for the explanation although it brought up even more questions for me:

1- do you mean, the bend flexibility which is calculated by CII for a GRP piping is not conservative enough?
2- I would always put the SIF values before and after the bends/tees manually in the calculations (right at the red rings in the screen shot attached to your text) is there more cautions I should take?
3- the sample calculation which I talked about, had extra excel sheets in which new allowable stresses were calculated for bends/tees in addition, SIF for hoop stress had been calculated and were implemented in the results of the calculation. I was a bit confused about the excel sheets and new allowables.

Regards,

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#56148 - 09/11/13 07:39 AM Re: GRP piping [Re: pooria1978]
Farhad Offline
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Dear Pooria,

Your approach to GRP analysis is correct. As far as you follow the code rules and manufacturers' recommendations and values, you may have a "fit & forget" design. But there are unpredictable problems in GRP piping systems during testing and lifetime operating. That's why you are being asked for extra stress check. I mention some of common problems below:

1- Small part of the failures occurs during installation or operation
2- Most of the failures occur during testing (pressure testing)

Due to:

1- Material defect
2- Defective installation
3- Overloading of the material due to shortcomings in design
4- Overestimation of joint capability
5- Pressure surge (excess pressure, vacuum, liquid hammer, etc.)

So, generally, in order to have a safe GRP piping system, you should do:

1- Stress analysis to limit the stress and loads
2- Surge analysis to limit the pressure
3- Fully control and supervision on installation during construction to check as built vs. design.
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